Market Discussions

first of all to the OP. LOL.

now, that being said.

Inflation isn't a money supply problem, It can derive from money supply, but it can also come from increase in AD(Aggregated demand), if AD grows faster than LAS(long-term aggregated supply) you can get into a situation similar to where we are at right now, where the supply can't catch up with demand, and prices inevetibly rise.

That being said, you can add to that LAS decreasing due to the removal of bots(and the fact no one was mining, as it wasn't viable, that's a long term shift in skillpoints from miners to other aspects), the market will take time to get the skillpoints back into mining.

On a further note, No one is "pushing" anyone, anywhere.
If it's your choice earning the least amount of money in the game, go rat in highsec.
No one is stopping you.
On the other hand, If someone increases the benefits of mining, more people will go mine, and that's simple logic.

People demand a sandbox game yet demand a fence around it.
What's the meaning of change of you're limiting it's effect from step 1?


CCP doesn't need "balls" to get involved in the mineral market.
They don't need to get involved at all, Let the market heal itself.
if all you can afford to fly a catalyst, Let there be massive catalysts fights.
Maybe new players will be able to participate now and not get stuck with a 1 year training list that's a "must" for the battleships to be effective.

Johnny

Inflation is caused by a few things, a few of them are high demand, speculation and market manipulation, for example since Crucible due to the high demand for tier 3 Battlecruisers the mineral mexallon has increased in value a considerable amount.
When crucible came out most of the tier 3's where quite expensive selling at around 70m but they all drop to 50m and are not at 80m.

On monthly basis the eve economy grows at 24 trillion, for inflation to be tackled from money supply point the game needs more taxes and npc sinks.

Why should we stop the inflation?

Exactly. The problem would be fixed for about 1-2 weeks, at which point the market becomes flooded and you're right back to where you were.

Inflation isn't caused by supply vs demand, it's caused by ISK faucets vs ISK dumps

Actually, a doubling of mineral supply would cause MORE inflation as it would not stem the amount of ISK entering the system, while driving down prices. The ratio of excess money to demand would be even worse.

I'm curious too. What does that mean? I asked my dad, but he told me to ask my mother. And she sat me down and helped me out. We printed your post. I then got out my favorite crayon and she told me to cross out the prepositional phrases and this is what I came up with:

hehe, even here the rage will go high... I quit post many have here.

I still don't understand what you were saying. I even drew a house and a tree on the page, but I still couldn't understand. My mom said I should come back here and ask you politely if you would explain it again for me. And that I should thank you for helping me.

Thanks.

Ah.. I was on a lot of drugs when i wrote that, painkillers. (Its true :D Back problem)

- But, the Bingo player is a one who stack item x for x number of days and calls it trade , the fancy Bingo players calls it marked speculation. So... What I was trying to say in my bliss is the comments from the bingo boys will be in "rage" and comment here, if CCP change it.

But, on topic: Its not that easy to mine, when belts go empty fast. and they are getting ganked while doing it. CCP always talk about risk vs Isk. The welfare program of the mission runners is risk free, and can be nerfed. The miners can
get more minerals or faster re spawn rate of the roids.

Plex the is the real money in Eve is still at the same level. So, there are no Inflation is eve, its a huge price increase in minerals and it can easy be fixed. I dont see any problem in that the miners get more isk, or more minerals if you like.

Inflation isn't a price increase, it's the reduced value of money.

Wiki: "there is no overall agreement about the exact mechanism and relationship between price inflation and monetary inflation"

Not the same at all, but correlated.

What you're seeing is temporary inflation, aka bubble. You don't make game changes based on temporary manipulation.


edit: I guess "inflation" could mean either price or monetary, but the only one we care about is monetary as price inflation is typically short term in Eve and monetary is a long running problem.

In Eve, one might even say price inflation is spikey, having large inflationary periods followed by large deflationary period. This is because monetary inflation has allowed a small minority to accumulate a relatively vast amount of wealth, which allows them to manipulate the market.

With bots gone, and players hunting afk miners, its highly likely that the time/value equation will equalise altogether. That is the way it is in virtually any other game for non rare items.

ie out of whack is very much a perspective issue - and since its still possible to earn a hurricane an hour mission running in highsec and its still not possible to mine 1 in an hour, I'd say its still out of whack in the way its always been out of whack.