Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I think there should be a ship like that.

I believe CCP stated that the role for the T3 ships should be a ship to mimic many role though not surpase the T2 version in it's specialisation.

problem is there is no exploration specialised ship, I guess that could be a role for T2 Battlecruisers.


Personaly Í think you should replace dps with tank to prohib it becoming a hip ster pvp ship.

say 4 turrets/launcher hard points and 4 dadicated slots to Probelauncher/covert ops cloak/tractor beam/ salvager.

midslots that are dedicated to hackers and anilizers might be an option as well

al could be adchieved with ship bonusses as wel ofcourse.

give it a nice tank or ability to passive tank and you don't need to be afriad it will become op.

Bumping this, because this is an idea whose time is long past due.

OP gets a +1.

As a now almost full-time losec explorer, I can corroborate just how grating a long explo-roam can be--long being anything more than 4-6 jumps from base given current game-design, and even that's pushing it.

I think it would work as a missile-boat, if it has a large-ish cargo hold (ca. 500m^3). (A good missile pilot with a heavily-bonussed ship--read: Tengu--eats missiles at an almost comical rate. No drone-bay, in this case. You need rigs, high support-skills, and/or not-cheap implants to hurt small stuff consistently.)

The shield-tanked missile version:

7 high slots (5 missiles, 2 utilities for CovColak and prober)
7 mids (dual-prop, both mid-slot profession-mods, and a 3 slot tank, or 2 + cap-mod/booster an option)
3-4 lows

2 rig-slots (compromises it's ability to hurt small stuff compared to the fairly common 2x Rigor II/1x Flare II HM Tengu--means you'll have to switch between Furies and regular missiles more often, further "pre-nerfing" it in practice so as not to make it OP).

No drone-bay!

ca. 500-550m^3 cargo-hold capacity

Lemme see, hmmmm....

Role BonI:

-99.65% Covert Ops cloak CPU use
-99% to CPU use of probe launchers
+37.5% to (racial damage type) heavy and assault missile damage

Ship Boni:

(Racial) Cruiser skill bonus:

+7.5% to scan strength of Core Scanner Probes (these only, not applied to combats or deep-space. The option to use the latter in an expanded launcher should be there, as any explorer who's heard of swiftandbitter.com knows how incredibly useful DSPs can be. Splits the difference between the T1 scan frig and the CovOps frig), and +5% to shield resistances per level

Battlecruiser skill bonus:

+5% to Heavy and Assault missile launcher rate of fire, +5% agility per level

Or maybe better for balance, +5% MWD velocity per level, but keep the heavy mass, and no bonus to AB speed--though it should be reasonably fast with an AB, 500ish m/s I would say. (So no "real" sig/speed tank, but a little bit of one, but range-tank a lot better using MWD, with the usual drawbacks of MWDs.)

Skill prerequisites:

(Racial) Cruiser 5, Battlecruiser 5, and oooh, let's say....CovOps 5.

Good-to-top tanking, fitting, weapon, probing, and navigation skills go without saying.

High skill requirements, plus high cost should keep them from proliferating willy-nilly

Because multi-booting is a crutch for weak little lamers, and sov-null is for "me-too!" shouting douche-bags, that's why.

Part of the opposition to this idea seems to come from the covert ops cloak capability.
The covert ops capability is what provides safety in bubble camps; you can still be caught, but your chances are improved by a large margin.

An intermidiate solution could be:
* 15% reduction to cloaked velocity speed penalty per skill level
* No sensor resolution interference from cloaking devices

This would mean that you could accelerate to warp speed while cloaked. In order to warp however, you would need to decloak. As a result, you would also arrive at your warp destination uncloaked. Still, you could reach resonable speeds while cloaked, so you have some change to run from a waiting PvP ship trying to decloak you. (maybe even allow an afterburner to work while cloaked?)

The removal of the penalty in scan resulution interference keeps locking times within reasonable times when running sites (note that the targeting delay after decloaking remains unchanged).

why not just propose a tactical subsystem reconfiguration module akin to a siege/triage module?
you anchor yourself uncloaked for 10 minutes and you can refit in space and even swap out subsystems.

does everything you wanted and makes for hilarious killmails. just need more cargo space now.

A typhoon can do 90% of those things listed in the OP.

I had one in the GW and Catch region doing sites solo and Havens solo.

Could cloak
Salvage
Probe
Fire missiles
Drones for all occasions
Scan
Hack both types of containers
and local repairs.

It was destroyed though in the GW due to a big fleet on one of the gates I jumped through, but it made its ISK back 3 times over so I am happy.