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Heavy Missile Specialization?
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Umedark
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#1 - 2012-04-20 21:49:48 UTC
I have just started level 3 missions with my Drake, and im just wondering if Heavy Missile Lancher II are worth the 12 day wait
or would it be better to just go with Support Missile skills such as Rapid Launch or Missile Bombardment?
Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge
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#2 - 2012-04-20 21:51:22 UTC
The tech 2 missile launchers are very good and most definitely worth the training time.
Umedark
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#3 - 2012-04-20 21:54:03 UTC
thank youBig smile

also I just rellized I didn't post this under the skill forum, plz don't flame me Sad
Boomhaur
#4 - 2012-04-20 22:20:14 UTC
*FLAMES APPEAR* Evil Why you no post under the right forum!! Evil (end sarcasm)

Yes it's quite useful skill, is it required for lv3's no, but its useful, I personally bring up rapid launch up to 4 at least, mabey 5 since it's only a rank 2 skill, and warehead upgrades ot 3 or 4 than go with training HML spec to 3 or 4. More likely 3 will be good enough if your just doing lv3 missions in a drake and still have other skills you have to worry about.

Side benefit of T2 HML is that they are cheaper than the arbalest HML's from what I recall by a good margin to in the region I am in too. I believe the difference was 15mil per launcher and the T2 is far better. T2 missiles are also nice to use, but I doubt so much in lv3 missions mainly due to their price which will put a big dent in your isk/h.

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Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
#5 - 2012-04-20 22:24:33 UTC
Whip out EFT and make sure you've got the fitting skills to fly a T2 fit drake without more than 1 fitting mod (if that); if you can't I'd train support skills until you can.
Orlacc
#6 - 2012-04-20 22:44:04 UTC
Certainly if you plan on getting into a Tengu down the road, T2's are mandatory.

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Umedark
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#7 - 2012-04-20 23:01:09 UTC
Ok thx for the info, going to train Heavy Missiles 4 and 5 after im done drones 5.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#8 - 2012-04-20 23:10:50 UTC
Celeritas 5k wrote:
Whip out EFT and make sure you've got the fitting skills to fly a T2 fit drake without more than 1 fitting mod (if that); if you can't I'd train support skills until you can.


This is a valid point. T2 launchers are considerably harder on fitting than T1. Make sure you have AWU 4 planned along with the rest of your fitting skills to get the most out of them.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#9 - 2012-04-21 17:37:35 UTC
Umedark wrote:
I have just started level 3 missions with my Drake, and im just wondering if Heavy Missile Lancher II are worth the 12 day wait
or would it be better to just go with Support Missile skills such as Rapid Launch or Missile Bombardment?




Well your support skills should be at 3 or 4 already? If you haven't trained missile support skills at all, then yes, spend 12 days on getting them up to 4 instead before training Heavy Missiles 5.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Umedark
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#10 - 2012-04-24 02:48:44 UTC
[/quote]

Well your support skills should be at 3 or 4 already? If you haven't trained missile support skills at all, then yes, spend 12 days on getting them up to 4 instead before training Heavy Missiles 5.[/quote]

ya I'm going to get my Missile support skills to 4 before I get Heavy Missiles 5. why i don't already is I got most of my cap skills to 4 and some of my shield skills to 4 and the rest to 3, so what i'm seeing is i can tank them all day long and it takes me all day long to kill them :(
Riven Aleem
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-04-24 11:18:56 UTC
I was doing 3's with Malkuth launchers for a long time, I only changed to Tech2 when I started on 4's. I worked on all my tanking, and missile support skills first.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#12 - 2012-04-24 12:15:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcanis
Umedark wrote:
Malcanis wrote:

Well your support skills should be at 3 or 4 already? If you haven't trained missile support skills at all, then yes, spend 12 days on getting them up to 4 instead before training Heavy Missiles 5.


ya I'm going to get my Missile support skills to 4 before I get Heavy Missiles 5. why i don't already is I got most of my cap skills to 4 and some of my shield skills to 4 and the rest to 3, so what i'm seeing is i can tank them all day long and it takes me all day long to kill them :(


Once you can tank the missions, then you don't get any benefit from improving your tanking ability further. The benefit of training your tanking skills further will be that you are able to fit fewer tank mods and more that increase your effective DPS (target painters, rigor rigs etc.) This is why most "All level 5 skill" mission fits only have 4-slot tanks, or even 3-slot.

And of course increasing DPS gives you a tanking bonus in that dead rats do no damage.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016