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While I have only been playing Eve for under 3 months now, I have grown to love it.

I recently decided to restart my PI. To do this I set up in a -.2 space. Got it going and bought a Primae, after all it was created for PI was it not?

So i look at it, no high power slots for a cloak, no rigs to increase the hold (even though there is space for PI commodities along with a hold for your command centers), and no mid slots!

Am not asking for the ship to be over hauled into a massive cargo freighter, am simply asking that this ship, that in my eyes is unable to do its intended job, be modified to were it can meet what we, the players that engage in PI, need.

Yes it is not need but, it was created for it!

I'm sorry...I'm all in favor of traditional intended use of ship but lets be honest here...the primae is a piece of ####.

The noctis is its better brother and meant for salvage.

If I was going to do PI...I'd do it in a blockade runner...not only is it cheaper...but a hell of alot more safer with cov ops cloak abilitiy.

Its common sense!

Make it more useful for its intended role than any other ship that isn't intended to be used for PI, please. Thanks.

I agree with these statements. The Primae doesn't do a single thing better in the PI department than any ship. It is slow and bulky like a large industrial, yet both of its specialty holds combined hold less than an Iteron with no modules and Gallente Industrial trained to 1. New players are given a free industrial from the tutorial which is in every way better for all types of hauling than the Primae is. Even back when they were given out, a new player would have had more incentive to sell it than to fly it, even though it looks kind of cool. Even its tank is bad--it has more powergrid than normal industrials but it has so few slots that its bulky design still ends up with less EHP than smaller and faster industrials.

I think the following problems need to be addressed with the Primae:
1.) No purpose - It's supposedly a PI hauling ship but it can't haul

Howabout it requires the ORE Industrial skill to fly, and each level of the industrial skill adds +2000m3 of space to its PI hold, and its base value is increased to 4000. Then even with the skill only at 1, you have 6000m3 PI space, which is slightly higher than that freebie industrial you were given from the tutorial (with meta 0 cargo expanders). At skill 3 it'll carry 10,000m3, and 14,000m3 at skill 5. It still won't rival industrials, but it's easy and potentially cheap, and you can carry command centers around in it at no extra charge.

I'd also make the size of the command center hold based on your interplanetary consolidation skill, 1000m3 (one command center) per level of the skill, so you can carry as many command centers as you can place.

That wouldn't make it a GOOD ship, but it would make it an OK ship. It would at least function as a PI ship, and some players would definitely use it, even if just to be using a limited edition ship.

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Another thing that could seal it in as a newbie favorite would be if it had a way of refueling a command center launcher so that it could be used more often. This way new players could potentially avoid the huge export taxes and instead just launch all their stuff directly into orbit.

First off, why did you feel the need to necro a thread that'd been dead a month?
Second, the Primae doesn't need any changes because it already does what it's supposed to do, be a gimmick ship. It wasn't really designed for PI work, it was designed as a collector's item (the same as all the other giveaway ships like the Zephyr and Echelon). The reason that it has the 'PI' label on it is that it was released as the Christmas giveaway ship the same year that PI was released, so it got labeled as a 'PI' ship.

They would make better collector's items if they actually costed a little bit, so it would actually be enjoyable to collect them as it would give one a sense of accomplishment. Plus, the Zephyr and Echelon actually can do something that other ships can't do. The Apotheosis doesn't have much over a shuttle, but there's not much to the different kinds other than looks, anyway. The Primae has NOTHING to its name, though. It can't do ANYTHING better than tutorial reward ships.

I necroed this thread because I wanted to discuss this, and so I did a search to see what other people had said about it rather than carry on a tirade about something that had probably already been discussed before.

This is interesting.

Many of us remember the ship as a "here you go kids" giveaway and the circumstances around it, and therefor obviously dismiss it as a ship of any use. We pretty much ignore it, it's tainted.

However, most new players do not know this history, and it IS on the market.
I was just cleaning out my hangar the other day and decided to keep it (packaged and out of the way) and remarked my self how useless it was in relation to its purpose.

There is nothing it can do that a well fitted Industrial or transport blockade runner cannot do 20 times better.
Even as a hi-sec ship, why would you have two ships when one can to the same thing and a whole lot more.

FIX THE PRIMAE
OR
REMOVE IT

Right now it is just a stale reminder of some serious ship design/role issues.

I think i may buy the remaining existing Primae's to get them the hell off the market permanently. They will have a use - minerals for my battleship collection.