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Technetium @ 200k ISK

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Nomad I
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-23 18:58:42 UTC
This is shocking Shocked But what is the reason?
Retar Aveymone
DJ's Retirement Fund
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-04-23 19:04:42 UTC
to elaborate, all stockpiles are gone (everyone has assumed the tech nerf is right around the corner for a year+ so everybody has gotten rid of it)

and, i sell goonswarm's technetium and so I personally manage ~17-20% of all tech supply in the game, and i enjoy high tech prices

and demand is constant, but with the loss of stockpiles supply is down, and enough is in my hands i have the power to create shocks to hasten the price's rise

you'd all best get lubed, the only reason its only at 200k was i figured that was a good place for now instead of seeing if i could jack it to 250k in one go
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-04-23 21:02:30 UTC
Like akita said in his original analysis, at what relative price will people actually start using significantly less t2 stuff?

The sky really is the limit.

Also, financial terrorism gets me hot. Just sayin'.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#4 - 2012-04-23 21:05:09 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Like akita said in his original analysis, at what relative price will people actually start using significantly less t2 stuff?

The sky really is the limit.

Also, financial terrorism gets me hot. Just sayin'.


minerals going nuts spikes the price of tech 1 goons such that the premium for tech 2 doesn't seem all that high. meanwhile tech 3 is in many cases inferior to their tech 2 equivalents in one way or another and in any case a mass movement out of tech 2 into tech 3 across all niche roles would spike the price on them such that people would still use tech 2 anyway.


convenient, huh?

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fofofo
Retar Aveymone
DJ's Retirement Fund
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-04-23 21:06:05 UTC
AND you need tech to make all the new hulks people need now that mining is A Thing
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-04-23 21:08:47 UTC
corestwo wrote:
minerals going nuts spikes the price of tech 1 goons such that the premium for tech 2 doesn't seem all that high. meanwhile tech 3 is in many cases inferior to their tech 2 equivalents in one way or another and in any case a mass movement out of tech 2 into tech 3 across all niche roles would spike the price on them such that people would still use tech 2 anyway.


convenient, huh?


Yup. t2->t3 is quite the stretch, and the t1 mineral spike means you can ride, at the very least, the same percentage increase in t2 end products as the upcoming rise in t1 end products.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#7 - 2012-04-24 01:20:45 UTC
Nomad I wrote:
This is shocking Shocked But what is the reason?

The Dominion expansion, winter of 2009.
It took this long to burn through the vast majority of old stockpiles.

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Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-04-24 01:30:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Tickles
Akita T wrote:
The Dominion expansion, winter of 2009.
It took this long to burn through the vast majority of old stockpiles.


It would have been a lot sooner if not for the overall slump in game activity surrounding (Edit: incarna). The general demand for stuff just wasn't there to really squeeze that bottleneck. As soon as activity resumed, tech began it's final ascent.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#9 - 2012-04-24 01:37:19 UTC
uh no stockpiles were gone awhile ago that's why it got as high as 120, 140, 150, 170, whatever, on its own.


this is Retar there finally deciding to flex his muscles

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fofofo
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#10 - 2012-04-24 02:10:36 UTC
Announcing OTEC: Organization of Technetium Exporting Corporations - Ensuring Galactic Supply! #tweetfleet #eveonline
https://twitter.com/#!/TheMittani/status/194557192769241088

http://www.evenews24.com/2012/04/23/so-we-got-ourselves-a-nice-cartel-going/

Pretty soon the cheapest ships in Eve will be T3's fit with faction & meta 3 gear

I laugh when peeps tell me only ISK faucets cause inflation and I mention the oil crisis of the 70's ( remember OPEC? ):
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-04-24 02:15:42 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Akita T wrote:
The Dominion expansion, winter of 2009.
It took this long to burn through the vast majority of old stockpiles.


It would have been a lot sooner if not for the overall slump in game activity surrounding crucible. The general demand for stuff just wasn't there to really squeeze that bottleneck. As soon as activity resumed, tech began it's final ascent.

Don't forget that Incarna also drove down game activity, pushing our tech squeeze play back five months.

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-04-24 02:18:50 UTC
I meant Incarna.

Thanks.
SlayerOfArgus
Hermes Enterprises
#13 - 2012-04-24 08:05:27 UTC
Oh God things are going to get interesting. Drone poo nerfs, no more meta 0 item drops AND tech spikes? Welcome to Eve Online: Speculation Big smile
Callduron
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#14 - 2012-04-24 08:39:49 UTC
Eve News 24 has picked up the story.

http://www.evenews24.com/2012/04/23/so-we-got-ourselves-a-nice-cartel-going/

I write http://stabbedup.blogspot.co.uk/

I post on reddit as /u/callduron.
Nomad I
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-04-24 09:17:52 UTC
Who cares? Those who has enough capital don't care and will harvest the profits. The rest is the underclass paying our profits thanks to mittani. That's capitalism. EVE isn't fair.
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-04-24 09:36:51 UTC
I was wondering why t2 prices were going up fast even though they barely use any basic minerals. I don't pay attention to t2 production so I assumed tech spiked and peaked a long time ago. Not sure why anyone would dump when prices could only possibly go up.

Again, I don't know much about t2 production, how much would the average t2 ship go up in cost if tech went up like he is saying 200k to 250k?
trademeyourmoneys
billionaire boyz club
#17 - 2012-04-24 09:56:29 UTC
lol at the guy saying he makes 1 tril a month from tech, even when PL owned most of tech moons in the north only a few personal tech moons were handed out. 100% believable story bro.
Nomad I
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-04-24 09:59:42 UTC
Vaal Erit wrote:
I was wondering why t2 prices were going up fast even though they barely use any basic minerals. I don't pay attention to t2 production so I assumed tech spiked and peaked a long time ago. Not sure why anyone would dump when prices could only possibly go up.

Again, I don't know much about t2 production, how much would the average t2 ship go up in cost if tech went up like he is saying 200k to 250k?


More expensive T2 ships aren't used in common fleet fights in 0.0, but command ships, heavy dictors, dictors. A more common ship is the Abaddon, Maelstrom, Drake, Hurricane and Tier3 BC.

But the fittings are usual T2.
McCRAZY
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-04-24 10:22:08 UTC
Personally i still have my pre dominion stockpile of tech but its insignificantly small.

Assuming all tech reaches the market each month is it possible to assume there would be an implied roof in the price, ie 15 bil, for a jump freighter, 1 bil for a hulk puts most people out of the picture in terms of owning one. I guess the variable which changes this is the fact that the tech holding groups have the ability to essentially continue holding back technetium from the market without adversely affecting their own ability to function as an entity.
Nomad I
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-04-24 10:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Nomad I
They don't have to hold back any Tech because the amount of moons are to low.

In the moment there is a price run. Those who make reactions and are able to buy early Technetium for the next run, selling their stuff to prices calculated for higher Tech prices. And to get more fire into this race, the investments per reaction tower is at a rate of 2b per tower per week. The amount of pos owners able to finance this race should be shrinking and this causes higher prices for nanotransistors and t2
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