Market Discussions

See post #33

Mmm, impact of corp/alliance bills on a monthly basis:

- A flat per-month fee per corp would ensure that long-dead corps get disbanded and their tickers get recycled.
- A per-month fee for the alliance would do the same for alliance tickers.
- It would act as an additional ISK sink.

Per-corp fees could be as low as 100-500k/mo. Alliance fees in the range of 10-20M/mo. Maybe alliances pay 2M ISK/mo per member corp. Maybe corps pay a fee of 1k ISK/member each month to buy membership capacity.

(shrugs) It's probably a horrid idea.

asi i already posted here, the best way to get ISK out of the system would be to introduce upkeep costs for mundane tasks such as docking, storing items etc.

yes. also because of the first rule of tautology club.

This is an interesting idea. Question is, how much isk will it be successful at sinking per month? We would need to know the total number of active corps and alliances to know. If an entire alliance is only paying 20mil per month then that the equilivent to the amount a single incursion runner 'faucets' into the game in 2 incursions.... would it make enough of a dent in the problem?

Why is simply lowering the isk generation of ratting the wrong option. Lower the standard by 10-20 %.

Minerals rose up to prices that it is now as profitable to mine as run empire missions and have stopped increasing as of late. There were several forces that contributed to the low mineral prices up til now. bots, drone poo, rat loot. All of these have been diminished and thus mineral prices rose because ratting income has remained constant. For as long as i can remember the highend deadspace equipment which is rare enough has hovered around the same prices. If we were really having a runaway isk problem this stuff would be running up. Good officer stuff has run up so maybe that is the indicator.

Of course the current problem we have is there is so much isk in game that for many players a reduction in isk/hr income wouldn't be felt anytime in the forseable future but newer players & pvpers would feel it right away.

All the reprocessing should be done by reprocessing slots, requiring an ISK fee and time.

Then for all slots (industry, research and reprocessing) the fee goes up 5% if more then 75% of the slots are are occupied throughout the week. And every week less then 25% are occupied, the prices drop 5%. Then cut all fees according to standings, so excellent standings gets you a competitive edge.

Carebears will hate it, but it will improve the health of empire by a lot. POS also become more viable as alternatives.

This is really an awesome ideas.

Having slots on recycle, reprocess, and maybe even repairs. Would really be interesting. The floating price dynamic really needs to be introduced on a lot more of EVE game mechanics

I also would like a small idea I dabbled with. In any station the npc slots not only shifts up and down in price, but also corp standing demands and security status demands depending on history, So always using the average of the last days state. NPC facilities should all do this, and thus when player services got plugged into npc stations, the whole game mechanics would start being fixed. When npc rents services to players on behalf of players they would add tax/vat that was depending on your standing towards them

Example:
So say you rent out a copying slot at high sec price 7904 per hour (highest price in Sinq Mirilene) public, you would ofc need to undercut that price. I would expect daily changes and 5% increments only on new bids. So you would go in with around 7500 per hour. TO this the npc station add 15% VAT -1% per standing point with corp

If the station services 40 research slots. a system with 20 moons and avg 2 slots per player owned POS. Slots for rent was set as Active perma running a print/voucher from the station corp. LP store item (isk sink) When all the slots are filled the average security status would be calculated and when a slot clears any new demands would have to be above that, or above npc corp standing.

Also the players would have the option to rent to other corp, alliance or ID player (not in npc corp) This would be considered a private rental, and not public. The station brokering this rental would get flat 10% tax on the rental and not adjustable.

A boost to slots might be needed. These services could also work as PI "Populated" installations. So the combo of POS and PI would grant enough slots according to demand. PI slots should be inferior to POS though, at least until DUST and integration of that functionality is more clear

Similar mechanic for all the mentioned mechanics would be preferable, to keep things close to simple. With this we might finally be able to get rid of the npc facility problem

Would also be nice if npc seeds of reports was nerfed a bit. Or all copying demanded an added player generated item. Something like maybe scientists, that could be generated on populated PI planets?! So say any type of population could be converted to other types? Using installations with preloaded/fixed schematics. (something for future visuals considered)...

Whatever the new taxes are they need to be progressive taxes. The more isk in your wallet the higher your tax rate. That way new players wont have to grind out even more crappy low level missions while they train the skills for more lucrative endeavors.

If inflation is high then indy is paying well.
This will move more players to indy.

Which will bring back down prices a bit.

Also amount of isk in system being used toward taxes goes up as prices go up.
It will find a balancing point.

If it is long term inflation then you do things to make indy more profitible but do so in a way that help produce more total product as to keep prices down and will in turn give players a bit more items/ships to get blown up.

The most important aspect of the isk faucets are how balanced are they between eachother.

The indy will always balance back out with the isk producing jobs.