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Diamond in the Rough: EVE-Online Winter Expansion
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Ejit
STD contractors
#21 - 2011-09-29 13:04:16 UTC
Haven't you heard the saying, "you can't polish a turd"

IMO they'll never truly strike the right balance in some areas. Especially Capitals and Sov. There will always be an edge the larger alliances can exploit. And therein lies the problem, alliance size!

I reckon one of the biggest and simplest changes that would go a long way in helping balance things would be to cap the maximum head count. Say, 1000, 500 max head count per alliance. This would help balance greatly and may even persuade smaller hi-sec alliances who thought they wouldn't stand a chance move out and take some space, whilst being pretty confident the neighbouring alliance isn't gonna drop a 1500 man fleet on them.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2011-09-29 14:19:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Grimpak
Abrazzar wrote:
Psychophantic wrote:
Sir Substance wrote:
The problem with a diamond in the rough is it sometimes takes years of polishing to achieve its true potential...


And even the best of diamonds can be ruined if it's not cut properly.

And even the best cut is worthless if the diamond itself is full of flaws, impurities and tainted colour.

QA, I look at you.



honestly, from what I've heard about it, QA has been overworked and understaffed since the contract SNAFU of 2009.

Ejit wrote:
Haven't you heard the saying, "you can't polish a turd"

IMO they'll never truly strike the right balance in some areas. Especially Capitals and Sov. There will always be an edge the larger alliances can exploit. And therein lies the problem, alliance size!

I reckon one of the biggest and simplest changes that would go a long way in helping balance things would be to cap the maximum head count. Say, 1000, 500 max head count per alliance. This would help balance greatly and may even persuade smaller hi-sec alliances who thought they wouldn't stand a chance move out and take some space, whilst being pretty confident the neighbouring alliance isn't gonna drop a 1500 man fleet on them.




so, instead having a powerblock made of 5 large alliances, you now have a powerblock made of 50 smaller alliances.



artificial limits on EVE don't work. players always find a way around it.

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#23 - 2011-09-29 14:21:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
Ejit wrote:
Haven't you heard the saying, "you can't polish a turd"

Intriguing factoid : Mythbusters episode 113 : http://mythbustersresults.com/end-with-a-bang
Amused : Apparently, you can.
Hurried addendum : But it takes a lot of work and may be more trouble than it's worth, and it's questionable how much of the initial turdy essence actually remained in place.

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Skyly
Safety Set To Red
Train Wreck.
#24 - 2011-09-29 14:23:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Skyly
Officer Spawn wrote:
I'm excited as hell about rebalancing. We're talking dozens of updates on the database here, something not to be taken lightly. As balancing is done only once every 18 months they gotta make sure it's done right, not at all like those scrubs in other games who rebalance constantly.


Rebalancing is done every 18 months? Not sure if trolling.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2011-09-29 16:46:57 UTC
Akita T wrote:
Ejit wrote:
Haven't you heard the saying, "you can't polish a turd"

Intriguing factoid : Mythbusters episode 113 : http://mythbustersresults.com/end-with-a-bang
Amused : Apparently, you can.
Hurried addendum : But it takes a lot of work and may be more trouble than it's worth, and it's questionable how much of the initial turdy essence actually remained in place.


Dismayed: Beaten to the reference by Akita T.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#26 - 2011-09-29 16:48:36 UTC
Akita...? Shocked Oh god no!

BRACE FOR INCOMING TVTROPES LINK!

BRACE BRACE BRACE!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
mkint
#27 - 2011-09-29 17:43:54 UTC
Skyly wrote:
Officer Spawn wrote:
I'm excited as hell about rebalancing. We're talking dozens of updates on the database here, something not to be taken lightly. As balancing is done only once every 18 months they gotta make sure it's done right, not at all like those scrubs in other games who rebalance constantly.


Rebalancing is done every 18 months? Not sure if trolling.

At one point a dev said somewhere that it takes 18 months to balance a single ship. That's why they never do it. Of course that assumes the hatchet method where CCP refuses to do small 1% balance changes every week or two on TQ and seeing if it works. Of course relying on CCP to Iterate™ is a bad bad idea.

And the fact that CCP is so late in the cycle to even start planning... that's just embarrassing. Seriously. Shouldn't that be done like the week before the last one goes live? No wonder CCP promotes based on who can tell the dirtiest jokes... they need people who can keep their teams entertained in the month after month of downtime.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2011-09-29 23:08:33 UTC
with drf now invading querious it wont be too long before drone cluster federation control all but stainwagon's space (though that will be next) in null sec.

null sec will then be full of goon and drf bots at that point.

drf will get mad cos noone else is left playing eve online to buy their isk so they can pay their morgages and send their kids to college.

drf will then turn on goons then finally on themselves.

even if the winter expansion fixes some issues it wont fix the more serious issues. unless ccp grows balls and starts to banning whole corps or alliances that allow or encourage botting, eve online wont be around much longer if ccp continue to ignore the current level of botting.

Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.
Russell Casey
Doomheim
#29 - 2011-09-29 23:14:19 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Rule #1 When it comes to playing Eve Online.

Never believe what CCP says. Wait until it is actually released before you actually start praising it.


And then there was this newsletter....
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2011-09-29 23:17:07 UTC
i too, hope CCP doesnt fail this winter, but somehow i know i will be disappoint.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#31 - 2011-09-29 23:29:50 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
but somehow i know i will be disappoint.


I'm p sure you where already considered a disappoint shortly after you where born.


CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Bilboz
Cranky Old Bastards
#32 - 2011-09-30 00:04:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Bilboz
Diamond? more like semi-warm bullcookies. Signs of real change..AUR removed from the game...new ship designs showing up on the test server..resetting nullsec before the truesec nerf. Those are just 3 major things that would show CCP was for real there are others to numerous to list but yea.IMO the only things we'll see from CCP just in time for the shopping season is some short of stupid hat and another round of nerfs to further shove eve into the crapper of history of broken mmo's.Oops
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#33 - 2011-09-30 01:23:16 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Akita...? Shocked Oh god no!
BRACE FOR INCOMING TVTROPES LINK!
BRACE BRACE BRACE!

Half-jokingly : Damn you ! You made me self-tvtropize !
Revenge :
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PolishTheTurd

P

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Noriko Satomi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2011-10-01 06:13:59 UTC
Ejit wrote:
Haven't you heard the saying, "you can't polish a turd"

...


Mythbusters proved that you can polish a turd using a special Japanese mud polishing technique.
Noriko Satomi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-10-01 06:17:16 UTC
Sofia Bellard wrote:
Some people say the last few expansions were not good. Some say...

Some say that when you pod him, he comes out of the vat with his helmet on. All we know is he's called CCP Stig.
Courthouse
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2011-10-01 06:49:05 UTC
Noriko Satomi wrote:
Sofia Bellard wrote:
Some people say the last few expansions were not good. Some say...

Some say that when you pod him, he comes out of the vat with his helmet on. All we know is he's called CCP Stig.

The Stig would have intentionally run off the track and into a wall, repeatedly, while strapped to a pair of NOS canisters instead of continuing to be associated with CCP.

Don't cheapen The Stig by making terrible associations.
Solhild
Doomheim
#37 - 2011-10-01 07:33:24 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Akita T wrote:
Ejit wrote:
Haven't you heard the saying, "you can't polish a turd"

Intriguing factoid : Mythbusters episode 113 : http://mythbustersresults.com/end-with-a-bang
Amused : Apparently, you can.
Hurried addendum : But it takes a lot of work and may be more trouble than it's worth, and it's questionable how much of the initial turdy essence actually remained in place.


Dismayed: Beaten to the reference by Akita T.


Much easier to roll one in glitter Big smile
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2011-10-01 07:47:08 UTC
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I want my sanctums back and i want blue VoS back and and .. hmm keep dreaming ..

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