Warfare & Tactics

Yes of course. That will solve everything. It is impossible to imagine that the same people deccing you will be the same people defending you. No one in EVE would ever do something so dastardly. It will simply not occur to them. Ever.

I like the idea of war decs and I haven't fully read all of the changes, but I hope they make sure someone can't just chain grief someone or at least there be a decent incentive to move on to different more profitable targets.

The best part about war decs is it being an ISK sink. I think there is a lot of potential.

Scale it the other way. The more members YOU have, the more it costs. Think of it as like a single-member-permit system. Each member that you need to "certify" to be in the war costs you x isk. Large alliances won't be so inclined to bug the little guy, and the little guy can dec all day long if he wants. Bigger alliances that can afford to dec each other for good reasons can still do so (though dec'ing in nullsec? Does it net a reward I'm unaware of?) etc etc etc

I love reading people saying that the new workdec system is "killing industry" they are more balanced than they were. I used to do war decs, it cost nothing you couldnt make killing 2 BS rats in 0.0 in a SBomber and if they paid there was nothing to stop you just leaving the war dec running and killing them some more. War decs are more balanced towards defenders now than they were a year ago. It costs more, you know if you pay your free for at least a week, and you can contract in merc that cant just take your money and run (i say cant...i mean cant as easily)

Yes your losing you "dec sheild" that made high sec POS indistructable and wars next to pointless but your better off than you have been reciving a war dec after inferno than any time in the 7 or 8 years before "dec sheild" and people managed then, have carebears forgotten how they used to deal with war decs already?

You get 24 hours notice, get rid of all your shiney that might get shot in space, **** star up your POS and make sure your corpies aint flying mission or mining ships for a week.

If a merc corp contacts you and says they will help fight off your attackers for isk, assume they are alts of the attackers, find mercs yourself instead

You can't scale using a single factor and have it work across the board.

- Attacker size? Too easy to game.
- Defender size? Works great for the big groups, not so well for the small groups who get picked on by the big groups.
- Difference in size? Mostly makes the math a bit weird.
- Linear scaling? Fundamentally broken because there's no diminishing returns on member padding.

You can get interesting results from a very basic pair of formulas:

if (attacker > defender) = base_fee + (diff_fee * M^1/3)
if (attacker <= defender) = base_fee + (size_fee * N^1/4)

M = total size of defender
N = difference in size between attacker defender
base_fee = 50M
diff_fee = 50M
size_fee = 75M

1v1 wars are about 125M/wk, 2k vs 2k is 552M/wk, 10k vs 10k is 800M/wk
10k vs 1 is 1127M/wk
1 vs 10k is 800M/wk

Because CCP has all the data, why not calculate with the kills/losses?

It should be more expensive if a pvp-oriented corp wardecs an industrial corp. The calculation on behalf of membersize is bullshit.

It's always been a PVP game. The whole concept of separate PVE and PVP is native to other games, and doesn't really have anything to do with EVE. Yes, you can shoot NPCs, but it always happens on the same server with "PVP rules".




This is not a theme park game where you choose instanced entertainment, but a single-shard persistent universe.

I fly solo or with 1-3 other pilots every night. Every system is a level playing field. You choose your engagements, and work to prevent others from fighting you with odds on their side.

And most players will choose a good fight over a gank, if you don't know this you really haven't been playing outside hisec for long.

You really need to start seeing EVE as a virtual world.

I really don't know what you guys are smoking, but fighting any corp residing outside hisec costs 0 ISK on Tranquility.

Last I saw, the plan was that you could ally with as many corps as you wanted. Every wanna-be PVP corp out there will ally and do POS defense for free so they can get killmails. It will cost you nothing to spam allies into the war and overwhelm anyone trying to kill your undefended small POS tower.