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Those were dark days. The overview was a painful change and required a lot of adaptation but overall it made things much more complex but easier to handle.

YOU BAD LIAR !

lol

someone posted this in 2008 :
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=692058

and got what he wanted, 100% matching.

CCP i hope you gave him a plex.

I just checked in a change that makes the icon background slightly red, indicating that they are not new magic modules.

But red just means it goes faster.

Doesn't this really nerf the Ewar ships? I mean all the info was previously there with the overview.. You just had to scroll down and pay attention to it to figure out who was doing what. Now it's really easy to target the person back. At the same time, there is NO indication other then the red box and the damage notifications that you're being hit by a specific person. Sure in a small fight that might not matter much, but in a big fight, the damage notifications are going by so quick, that you have no way to actually read it. So technically you're forced to constantly scroll your overview. I just think this makes it way too easy to take down the ewar ships which usually have crap for survivability anyways, and it was suprise that was their big advantage. Now, you've taken that advantage away.

That's a great changes.
Can we also have projected positive effects listed in similar manner? Remote reps, shield transfers, sensor linking, fleet/squad bonuses etc.

Positive and negative feedback on this one, was asked to post this here and I love the UI folks so I couldn't say no ♥


Quickly to get the negative out of the way, there's a new text display for Shield/Armour/Structure that comes with a set of lines that point towards the specific bar.

http://i.imgur.com/gSkWB.jpg

As highlighted in the circle, these lines once they reach the hud are very difficult to make out, it's easier to figure out when you already know where they're going, but I still find myself squinting to see them regardless.

Instead of lines pointing to the bars, is it possible to just have abbreviations of Shield/Armour/Structure (SH/AR/ST) next to each one, possibly with the popup you get when you hover over each different "health" bar also popping up over their respective % text if further clarificaiton is needed?

Also a little niggle (and I mean really little but I might as well mention it while I'm here) but the Structure value is a tad too close to the Cargo icon, would be nice to see a slight spacing gap there if possible.



Anyway, the positive:

I frigging love the new E-War HUD, it's brilliant and far more obvious than ye olde tiny icons on the overview. Running a mission earlier and spotting the neut icon and thinking "wait this mission has neut ships?" I'd never noticed with the old setup before, so instant notice.

One suggestion I'd like to make, there's a keybind for toggle left click target. Is it possible add a function where if target-toggle keybind is pressed down and a specific e-war icon is clicked, all ships doing that e-war are all locked simultaneously (assuming one has enough target capacity to do so) as opposed to manually picking each one out of the drop down menu?


Anyway, that's it from me, thanks for this new feature. Anything that adds information in a clear and visible way and interaction options in flight for me are big +'s.

Not a problem, and yeah my phone's gone crazy with OHGODSOMANYTWEETS

Huge thanks to you both for the time you took to chat about it there though

I agree with everything here.

(Small extra justification for text-labelled readouts: Without text labels, the only place any of the readouts are identified as shield etc. is in tooltips.)

Very good indeed. Now how about killing two birds with one stone and making those icons appear with a slightly green (or blue, or whatever) background when it's an actual buff and not a debuff? It would become an all-in-one "status bar" and you wouldn't need to eat anymore screen space. Someone mentioned it earlier but you could also make the player much more aware of how deep he/she is in by simply displaying the percentage of the debuff/buff. Let's say some people are jamming my tracking speed with several modules, and it would display a nasty red "85%" in the center of the corresponding ewar icon, then i would understand right away it no use trying to hit the frigates around me anylonger. In the same way, a green value would appear if a squadmate is buffing me. Of course, the displayed value would be expected to be the effective one, once debuffs and buffs are both applied, since the goal would be to have everything in that single bar. If that percentage displaying is considered too invasive i guess it could just appear when mouse hovering the icon, but it's defeating a bit the purpose of immediate ewar awareness then isn't it? might as well not bother with it all to begin with in that case.

I also strongly second the concept of circling timers just like for ship modules, like a lot of other players it seems. Because when it comes to immediate understanding of complex situations, those flying text bars (get rid of them!) are the complete anti-thesis of the magnificient UI improvements you're doing right now.

And that's a good enough outro line : you're doing magnificient UI improvements.