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Hay CCP, are you trying to make nullsec more homogeneous? (A: No.)

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#1 - 2012-04-23 14:11:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
from the escalation patchnotes...
Quote:
Worldshaping

The security status of systems in Etherium Reach, Malpais, Oasa, Outer Passage, Perrigen Falls, The Kalvela Expanse and the Spire has been adjusted upwards to bring them more into line with the rest of nullsec.


I was under the impression that homogeneous space is a problem and discourages greed, envy, and conflict. I thought it was going in the other direction... are we really trying to bring all the nullsec regions "in-line" with one another?

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Azitek
Serenity Labs
#2 - 2012-04-23 14:45:10 UTC
Or could it be that, and this is just a wild guess, while updating the drone regions, they felt they might need to update the drone regions?
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#3 - 2012-04-23 14:51:32 UTC
Azitek wrote:
Or could it be that, and this is just a wild guess, while updating the drone regions, they felt they might need to update the drone regions?

Wow. That was insightful. Something changed in the drone regions? Hadn't heard about that. Thank you for contributing.

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-04-23 14:52:13 UTC
Azitek wrote:
Or could it be that, and this is just a wild guess, while updating the drone regions, they felt they might need to update the drone regions?


No, the changes are in no way related, its purely by chance that they updated the drone regions while updating the drone regions

also Xzibit was not involved in the process

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2012-04-23 14:53:13 UTC
Gogela wrote:
from the escalation patchnotes...
Quote:
Worldshaping

The security status of systems in Etherium Reach, Malpais, Oasa, Outer Passage, Perrigen Falls, The Kalvela Expanse and the Spire has been adjusted upwards to bring them more into line with the rest of nullsec.


I was under the impression that homogeneous space is a problem and discourages greed, envy, and conflict. I thought it was going in the other direction... are we really trying to bring all the nullsec regions "in-line" with one another?


This is less about homogeneity and more about basic balance. The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#6 - 2012-04-23 14:56:23 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Gogela wrote:
from the escalation patchnotes...
Quote:
Worldshaping

The security status of systems in Etherium Reach, Malpais, Oasa, Outer Passage, Perrigen Falls, The Kalvela Expanse and the Spire has been adjusted upwards to bring them more into line with the rest of nullsec.


I was under the impression that homogeneous space is a problem and discourages greed, envy, and conflict. I thought it was going in the other direction... are we really trying to bring all the nullsec regions "in-line" with one another?


This is less about homogeneity and more about basic balance. The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe.

Oh.

Thank you for your response CCP Greyscale!

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Deathwing Reborn
#7 - 2012-04-23 15:01:39 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Gogela wrote:
from the escalation patchnotes...
Quote:
Worldshaping

The security status of systems in Etherium Reach, Malpais, Oasa, Outer Passage, Perrigen Falls, The Kalvela Expanse and the Spire has been adjusted upwards to bring them more into line with the rest of nullsec.


I was under the impression that homogeneous space is a problem and discourages greed, envy, and conflict. I thought it was going in the other direction... are we really trying to bring all the nullsec regions "in-line" with one another?


This is less about homogeneity and more about basic balance. The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe.



"The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe" Ya, just like the rest of drone regions. no faction loot worth anything, no loot tables, no security status from drones, and crappy salvage. Yet you still can not find the time to "fix" those problems. But the rest of it yes, that is HUGELY out of whack.

To the OP, they are not making everything equal, the drone regions suck more now than they ever did after this patch. Putting them further out of line with the rest of the universe as a whole anyway.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#8 - 2012-04-23 15:06:51 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Gogela wrote:
from the escalation patchnotes...
Quote:
Worldshaping

The security status of systems in Etherium Reach, Malpais, Oasa, Outer Passage, Perrigen Falls, The Kalvela Expanse and the Spire has been adjusted upwards to bring them more into line with the rest of nullsec.


I was under the impression that homogeneous space is a problem and discourages greed, envy, and conflict. I thought it was going in the other direction... are we really trying to bring all the nullsec regions "in-line" with one another?


This is less about homogeneity and more about basic balance. The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe.


Why is it out of Whack? Did you had 200 tech moons?
Wukulo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-04-23 15:11:47 UTC
Gogela wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Gogela wrote:
from the escalation patchnotes...
Quote:
Worldshaping

The security status of systems in Etherium Reach, Malpais, Oasa, Outer Passage, Perrigen Falls, The Kalvela Expanse and the Spire has been adjusted upwards to bring them more into line with the rest of nullsec.


I was under the impression that homogeneous space is a problem and discourages greed, envy, and conflict. I thought it was going in the other direction... are we really trying to bring all the nullsec regions "in-line" with one another?


This is less about homogeneity and more about basic balance. The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe.


"Oh. " - The sound of a whiny idiot being informed on the internet.


Posted on main because I'm not a coward like the rest of you.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#10 - 2012-04-23 15:13:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
Deathwing Reborn wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Gogela wrote:
from the escalation patchnotes...
Quote:
Worldshaping

The security status of systems in Etherium Reach, Malpais, Oasa, Outer Passage, Perrigen Falls, The Kalvela Expanse and the Spire has been adjusted upwards to bring them more into line with the rest of nullsec.


I was under the impression that homogeneous space is a problem and discourages greed, envy, and conflict. I thought it was going in the other direction... are we really trying to bring all the nullsec regions "in-line" with one another?


This is less about homogeneity and more about basic balance. The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe.



"The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe" Ya, just like the rest of drone regions. no faction loot worth anything, no loot tables, no security status from drones, and crappy salvage. Yet you still can not find the time to "fix" those problems. But the rest of it yes, that is HUGELY out of whack.

To the OP, they are not making everything equal, the drone regions suck more now than they ever did after this patch. Putting them further out of line with the rest of the universe as a whole anyway.

I think null, specifically overall resource distribution and unique resources, should be unevenly distributed throughout null to give each region it's own unique characteristics. In this way space carries different value and that perceived value can drive conflict. Say for instance you had one or two regions of space that have a higher truesec (making it less attractive to ratters) but maybe those rats are the only ones that drop component "X"... and component "X" is required to make a certain module... say a anti-cloaking pulse. Now that this region of space is the exclusive region to get this critical component, it might be worth taking over. Now lets say all regions have a unique resource. Every time any balance change is made, the relative "value" of null space changes. This can drive conflict and prevent "static" alliances... I think it's part of the reason why so many have lost interest in treating null as the super serial game it should be. That's just one example of many many good ones I've read for making null less "even". tl;dr; if you are trying to appeal to me to make the Drone regions more like other space you should know we are not on the same side of this issue. Try selling some "Augmented" drones. They are certainly worth something...

Wukulo wrote:
The sound of a whiny idiot being informed on the internet.

F*** you too buddy. I just wanted to see if CCPs vision of null was still going towards awesome and not pattering out... and it is so sue me for asking a question. I think it was legit. My question was answered... there isn't anything more to say.

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-04-23 15:16:39 UTC
Deathwing Reborn wrote:
To the OP, they are not making everything equal, the drone regions suck more now than they ever did after this patch. Putting them further out of line with the rest of the universe as a whole anyway.

well. xDEATHx already left those regions so CCP can do with them everything they want Cool

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2012-04-23 16:04:53 UTC
I had a bit of spare time in between deployment-related activities, so I sorted out an extended version of the image in the blog to illustrate exactly why we decided to make this change:

HERE IS A LINK
CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2012-04-23 16:17:56 UTC
Trolling replies removed. Please stay on topic.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#14 - 2012-04-23 16:24:02 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
This is less about homogeneity and more about basic balance. The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe.


And you only noticed now that the people who were there for years are gone and new alliances are moving in? I hope you'll excuse me for not believing that's a coincidence. This comes after drones getting bounties, also.

How many devs happen to have characters in these new alliances which are taking over the drone regions?

Its a conspiracy, CCP Greyscale blatantly plays a mage and is buffing them because he hates warlocks.

Wait... What?

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Lili Lu
#15 - 2012-04-23 17:43:06 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
This is less about homogeneity and more about basic balance. The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe.

OK, golf clap. So you finally got around to removing the mineral dump in drone alloys, and decided to add bounties to rogue drones.

While at that change, you moved very fast to balance drone regions sec modifiers to approximate that of other regions. But you have not provided any new officer or faction bonuses to rogue drones with which also to balance the rewards to those in other regions. Do you not see a problem with this? Result, drone regions still crap, only now for a different set of reasons.Ugh

And yeah, if you are so immediately concerned with regional balance we're still waiting for you to fix the ****-up of most-valuable technetium moon concetration after you nerfed the former evenly-distributed high-end most-valuable moon paradigm.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#16 - 2012-04-23 17:50:26 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Gogela wrote:
from the escalation patchnotes...
Quote:
Worldshaping

The security status of systems in Etherium Reach, Malpais, Oasa, Outer Passage, Perrigen Falls, The Kalvela Expanse and the Spire has been adjusted upwards to bring them more into line with the rest of nullsec.


I was under the impression that homogeneous space is a problem and discourages greed, envy, and conflict. I thought it was going in the other direction... are we really trying to bring all the nullsec regions "in-line" with one another?


This is less about homogeneity and more about basic balance. The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe.



what like one could claim about tech in the north?

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2012-04-23 18:03:02 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Gogela wrote:
from the escalation patchnotes...
Quote:
Worldshaping

The security status of systems in Etherium Reach, Malpais, Oasa, Outer Passage, Perrigen Falls, The Kalvela Expanse and the Spire has been adjusted upwards to bring them more into line with the rest of nullsec.


I was under the impression that homogeneous space is a problem and discourages greed, envy, and conflict. I thought it was going in the other direction... are we really trying to bring all the nullsec regions "in-line" with one another?


This is less about homogeneity and more about basic balance. The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe.



what like one could claim about tech in the north?


Yup.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#18 - 2012-04-23 18:10:44 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Gogela wrote:
from the escalation patchnotes...
Quote:
Worldshaping

The security status of systems in Etherium Reach, Malpais, Oasa, Outer Passage, Perrigen Falls, The Kalvela Expanse and the Spire has been adjusted upwards to bring them more into line with the rest of nullsec.


I was under the impression that homogeneous space is a problem and discourages greed, envy, and conflict. I thought it was going in the other direction... are we really trying to bring all the nullsec regions "in-line" with one another?


This is less about homogeneity and more about basic balance. The sec distribution in the drone regions on TQ currently is *hugely* out of whack with the rest of the universe.



what like one could claim about tech in the north?


Yup.


Better cash in now. A storm is brewing.
Buck Futz
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-04-23 18:36:35 UTC
But I dont WANT Eve to be more gay friendly. Evil
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#20 - 2012-04-23 18:40:07 UTC
Lili Lu wrote:



How did you get the headphones on your avatar pic? is it a new NEX item?
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