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This is the best way of stopping the inflation.
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Slavemaster
ICC - Information Control Corporation
#1 - 2012-04-23 05:30:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Slavemaster
- Double the amount of minerals you get from refining ore.

Everyone will be happy beyond comprehension. And there will be peace in the valley.

Oo
enterprisePSI
#2 - 2012-04-23 05:37:47 UTC
But the minerals that they mine, are free. Multiplying free with two gives.........?

The tears of the many, outweigh the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi©
Slavemaster
ICC - Information Control Corporation
#3 - 2012-04-23 05:41:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Slavemaster
enterprisePSI wrote:
But the minerals that they mine, are free. Multiplying free with two gives.........?


... So many minerals that nobody knows what to do. In short there are so much minerals around that its close to worthless.

Then... The Problem is solved.

Oo
Nylith Empyreal
Sutar Rein
#4 - 2012-04-23 05:46:21 UTC
All you need is Guiness? Brilliant!

Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him?
Slavemaster
ICC - Information Control Corporation
#5 - 2012-04-23 05:52:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Slavemaster
Nylith Empyreal wrote:
All you need is Guiness? Brilliant!


I bet that there will be many tears, and the price of minerals will be back to what i was in one year. It will go
down 30-40% if any CCP just hits at this. All the stacks of minerals will go to "Waste"

hehe, even here the rage will go high... I quit post of the injustice of the worthless stacks of minerals many
of the "bingo" players have here.

- So, its that easy... Do It CCP !

Oo
Liberty Eternal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-23 06:06:45 UTC
Slavemaster wrote:


hehe, even here the rage will go high... I quit post of the injustice of the worthless stacks of minerals many
of the "bingo" players have here.




What does that mean in English?
Slavemaster
ICC - Information Control Corporation
#7 - 2012-04-23 06:10:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Slavemaster
Liberty Eternal wrote:
Slavemaster wrote:


hehe, even here the rage will go high... I quit post of the injustice of the worthless stacks of minerals many
of the "bingo" players have here.




What does that mean in English?


Try to figure it out with your limited brain. If you cant because your intuition and logical reasoning is that of a ******,
then ask your dad or your guardian.

Oo
Bully Hedro
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-04-23 06:32:57 UTC
0/10
Adunh Slavy
#9 - 2012-04-23 07:02:15 UTC
Slavemaster wrote:
- Double the amount of minerals you get from refining ore.



No, that's one of the worst things that could be done. The monetary inflation exists because shooting rats, for far too long, has paid more relative wealth than most other activities.

Core prices, minerals, decreased while the supply of ISK increased, now that CCP has finally decided to stop back dooring one of the root activities of Eve, mining, all that money is rushing into the mineral markets.

Had the over supply of ISK and minerals not been allowed to happen in the first place, this situation would not exist. Players are returning to the belts, gearing up for T1 module production, making reevaluations on their path in Eve.

To suddenly turn around and double the production of minerals just pushes players back to the ISK faucets.

The best thing to do for the next six months is let the inflation run its course and see where things are. Chicken with no head mode is not a solution.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Slavemaster
ICC - Information Control Corporation
#10 - 2012-04-23 08:44:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Slavemaster
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Slavemaster wrote:
- Double the amount of minerals you get from refining ore.



No, that's one of the worst things that could be done. The monetary inflation exists because shooting rats, for far too long, has paid more relative wealth than most other activities.

Core prices, minerals, decreased while the supply of ISK increased, now that CCP has finally decided to stop back dooring one of the root activities of Eve, mining, all that money is rushing into the mineral markets.

Had the over supply of ISK and minerals not been allowed to happen in the first place, this situation would not exist. Players are returning to the belts, gearing up for T1 module production, making reevaluations on their path in Eve.

To suddenly turn around and double the production of minerals just pushes players back to the ISK faucets.

The best thing to do for the next six months is let the inflation run its course and see where things are. Chicken with no head mode is not a solution.


Incursion and the rats was the start of the problem. or not.

- But, the real problem is when mineral prices is 3x what is was for under 6 weeks ago.
NB everything else in EVE is at the same level: Plex, Ice, faction stuff. +++

So... The Only problem is the mineral prices and its so easy to fix. CCP has to do something.
The problem is even worse with T1 production.

But, lets just do it like they do it with the ICE belts then, make them so huge that they never "pops"

Oo
Liberty Eternal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-04-23 08:49:38 UTC
Slavemaster wrote:
Incursion and the rats was the start of the problem. or not.

- But, the real problem is when mineral prices is 3x what is was for under 6 weeks ago.
NB everything else in EVE is at the same level: Plex, Ice, faction stuff. +++

So... The Only problem is the mineral prices and its so easy to fix.


It's really not a problem. An upward correction in mineral prices has been overdue for years.
Slavemaster
ICC - Information Control Corporation
#12 - 2012-04-23 09:01:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Slavemaster
Liberty Eternal wrote:
Slavemaster wrote:
Incursion and the rats was the start of the problem. or not.

- But, the real problem is when mineral prices is 3x what is was for under 6 weeks ago.
NB everything else in EVE is at the same level: Plex, Ice, faction stuff. +++

So... The Only problem is the mineral prices and its so easy to fix.


It's really not a problem. An upward correction in mineral prices has been overdue for years.


Nha... Not when CCP has set a standard, a goal of :

Trit: 1 Isk
Pye 4 Isk
++++

Its impossible to have mineral prices at this level for a healthy economy in EVE. The more expensive a ship gets the
more "boring" this game gets for new players, pvp.

And to believe for sec that this game will be played by the next generation of MMO players who needs instant gratification, to put them in front of a rock. No.....

And BTW, the problem is that so many are stacking minerals, its not the lack of minerals. My bet is that eve use less minerals now than for 6 weeks ago. This is just a huge speculation, and CCP, if they have any guts can make the marked crash within few seconds.

Oo
Dave Stark
#13 - 2012-04-23 09:08:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
Quote:
But, the real problem is when mineral prices is 3x what is was for under 6 weeks ago.


well, that certainly isn't the case with trit. when i checked a few days ago it was double what it was about 6 months ago. if other minerals are increasing by 20% per week (which is about 2.6% per day), then mineral yield needs balancing rather than a flat out doubling of all minerals.
Slavemaster
ICC - Information Control Corporation
#14 - 2012-04-23 09:15:46 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Quote:
But, the real problem is when mineral prices is 3x what is was for under 6 weeks ago.


well, that certainly isn't the case with trit. when i checked a few days ago it was double what it was about 6 months ago. if other minerals are increasing by 20% per week (which is about 2.6% per day), then mineral yield needs balancing rather than a flat out doubling of all minerals.


Yeah, its a bit more that 2, but not 3 I`ll give you that.



Oo
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-04-23 09:16:51 UTC
Slavemaster wrote:


- But, the real problem is when mineral prices is 3x what is was for under 6 weeks ago.


3 times? So you'd be willing to buy my mexallon for the low, low price of 150 isk p/u (mexallon was 50 isk p/u 6 weeks ago)

The mineral basket (term coined by akita T iirc) has only gone up by about 20-25% from what I've seen. Once insurance rates catch up it won't be so bad.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#16 - 2012-04-23 09:18:28 UTC
When I started the game at the end of 2008, rookie chat's ISD promptly suggested me to go mine Roll

I recall Trit was about 4.4+ or so, therefore the increase has not been unreasonable given the ISK inflation and bots reduction.

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Silver Ott
#17 - 2012-04-23 10:32:21 UTC
Slavemaster wrote:
- Double the amount of minerals you get from refining ore.

Everyone will be happy beyond comprehension. And there will be peace in the valley.




Slavemaster wrote:


And BTW, the problem is that so many are stacking minerals, its not the lack of minerals. My bet is that eve use less minerals now than for 6 weeks ago. This is just a huge speculation, and CCP, if they have any guts can make the marked crash within few seconds.


perhaps your next suggestion is going to be to cut the mineral supply from rocks in half?
clixor
Celluloid Gurus
#18 - 2012-04-23 10:52:25 UTC
Slavemaster wrote:


Its impossible to have mineral prices at this level for a healthy economy in EVE. The more expensive a ship gets the
more "boring" this game gets for new players, pvp.


I already mentioned this in another thread twice i think but here it goes again.

If existing PVPers have to scale down, so f.i. fly bcruisers instead of BS, this lowers the barrier for newer players to compete.

Also, 0.0 will simply need more miners which gives an opportunity for miners to be recruited by alliances increasing the interaction between hi-0.0.

And ofcourse mining is finally getting a viable profession (again) which will hopefully motivate new players beyond the retention mark of doom (=average months playing)

So, this all is good for new players.
Aina Sasaki
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-04-23 11:03:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Aina Sasaki
Inflation is a money supply problem, and has nothing to do with the recent mineral business. Adding more minerals won't help it at all, as others have said. Rather, what really needs to happen is there needs to be less ISK being "created" by ratting, missions, and other fun things like that. If there is less money in those activities, more players will turn to other methods of ISK-making, such as mining/manufacturing. When they do that, the increase of items (supply) will result in general pricedrops for those goods.

So yeah... nerf missions and bounties. Good god are my corp mates going to try to cruicify me if they see this post. XD

- Rei
Rengerel en Distel
#20 - 2012-04-23 11:27:16 UTC
Aina Sasaki wrote:
Inflation is a money supply problem, and has nothing to do with the recent mineral business. Adding more minerals won't help it at all, as others have said. Rather, what really needs to happen is there needs to be less ISK being "created" by ratting, missions, and other fun things like that. If there is less money in those activities, more players will turn to other methods of ISK-making, such as mining/manufacturing. When they do that, the increase of items (supply) will result in general pricedrops for those goods.

So yeah... nerf missions and bounties. Good god are my corp mates going to try to cruicify me if they see this post. XD


trying to push people to mine is as bad as trying to push them into pvp, missioning, incursions, or whatever else. if missioners all of a sudden can no longer plex their account doing mssions, they won't just switch to mining, they'll switch to another game.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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