Ships & Modules

Arties hit MWDing Drakes perfectly fine.

It doesn't have the EHP of a brick Drake, it sacrifices the utility of the standard PDU Drake and under TQ conditions a nano-Drake outruns it forever.

Ref: The alleged proposed changes to the Drake;


Make the drake faster and drop its tank for more DPS?

Make the Harbi faster? (God knows it needs something)

Reduce Myrms drone bandwidth for more speed and up turret DPS?

Leave Cane alone?

Yay! We can all fly the Dra-Cane-Myrmi-Harb. We can all be the same.


Well Done CCP - now thats what I call balancing!


The Drake is what it is - Caldari thru and thru. It ain't broke/overpowered. It doesn't need a major makeover.

On the other hand, is a spider AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaargh!

Raptors

As much as I love the Drake, I disagree, With proper skills the Brutix has a better tank, and can do a lot more damage. The same is true for the Dominix vs Raven. The Dominix can have a larger tank, with more DPS from drones alone.

The drake is a lot more mobile, while the Galante droneboats just sit there, laughing when they take a shot head on.




Agreed 100%, and it applies to every ship you want to fly. It's how you fly your ship, not how others see it.

If a player has proper skills, he probably shouldn't be wasting them in Level 2 or Level 3 missions (unless he is blitzing them to open up Level 4 standings). The fact that a low SP player can do well in a Drake is precisely the thing that makes it attractive in those low level missions.

lot of ftruth to that lol.

Flew and flown agaisnt drakes. Tank is its main feature imo. And why its not liked. Takes a while to kill. Fleet level makes it unliked as you actually have to primary them to drop em fast. And it can be done, I have been 3 shotted, well the volleys hit so I saw 3 massive dips in tank to be more accurate, by a good pirmary call out....km list of shooters read like the same ones I got in bs' lol.

Skirmish style its not liked, imo, becasue if you don't bring the proper dps it basically goes on and on till the other guy gridns the tank down or gets bored and burns out to break point and gtfo since he knows he's jsut burning ammo on a semi-lost cause lol.


If proposed drake change go through, be interesting to see how this "nerfs" the drake . Part of me is thinking the ROF will still make this ship hated. Just hated for more gank instead of tank. While not the same as winmatar ac round spewing its still better than what she has now. Fleet or skirmish....this should be an actual improvement. Worth the lost tank imo.

In view of the very good upcoming Tiercide, I think CCP should keep their hands of the Drake. With it's low DPS and massive signature the Drake already is quite balanced, and this is shown by the fact that Tr3 BC have taken over a lot of the BC-spots in fleets.

The uber-tanky Drake was a very good role-defined ship. Giving it a tank-nerf and dps-boost just puts it back in the area of general usefulness area that is ruled by 'flavour of the day' of the highest tier, doing a 180 degree turn on what Tiercide is supposed to achieve.

Besides, giving a ROF boost to a ship wielding 7 missile launchers, the most lag-heavy weapons in this game?
OMG CCP what the hell are you thinking?!

The reason why I don't use the Drake anymore is because it's DPS is the poorest of the Tier 2 Battlecruisers.

EFT comparison:
Hurricane: 787DPS with 6 Autocannons + 2 HAM launchers, 3 x Gyros, 1 x BCS.
Myrmidon: 878DPS with 6 Blasters + 3 x damage mods and Drones (Kinetic + Thermal + selectable drone damage types).
Harbinger: 671DPS with Pulses and 3 x damage mods (even mix of EM + Thermal damage).
Drake: 578DPS with HAMs and 3 x damage mods (only with Kinetic damage).
FEROX: 606 DPS with 6 Blasters and 1 HAM Launcher, 3 x Mag Field Stabs.


Weapons above are unheated, all skills at lvl 5, no implants.

I actually really want a Hurricane and a Myrmidon now. Drake is balanced too much towards tank, not gank. Even a Blaster Ferox outdamages it.

Looking at the above, the Drake is pretty rubbish. Tengu only performs well because it has an obscene RoF bonus.

Caldari ships in general lack the DPS and application of DPS to perform well in PvP.

I am back to the game after a year away. Unfortunately, I sold off my old character and gave away most of my assets when I left, thinking I would not be back, so am starting from scratch again.

My old main was a full on Minmatar with over 50k skill points when I auctioned it and I am fairly confident that I knew my way around most of the game. Coming back there is only one route I even remotely considered to get back into action quickly, and that involves the Drake!!

My aim is to blitz through missions ASAP to get to Lvl 3s in order to get he ISK rolling in enough to finance the step to Lvl 4s. I already swarmed through the Lvl 1s and am in the thick of Lvl 2s using an assault missile Caracal. I already have the skills for the Drake fit I aim to use for Lvl 3+ but just don't have the ISK to buy it yet!! :)

As previously mentioned, there is no other ship that is so easy to train for and so simple to fly, yet to be so safe. Boring? God, yes!

Once I am into Lvl 4s then I will branch out and get back into the ships I love (Minmatar all the way!!!!!). I know it is a longer training route for PvP, but it is a much quicker way to get back into the thick of things. Having quick, disposable capital is much better for the long game, and I quite enjoy being the scout/tackle. Hehe. And besides, the shield and basic drone skills are equally useful for the ships I like to fly anyway.

The Tengu is fine, its a T3 cruiser which is supposed to be customizable to fill a lot of different roles. It shouldn't fill them better than a T2 which is specialized for the role, but it just so happens that the Nighthawk, and the Cerberus suck. It is not better than a Falcon or Rook in their roles.

Your analysis of the Drake is... dated.