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Hulkageddon seems illogical

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#101 - 2012-04-21 22:03:04 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Kira Kasumi wrote:
Is it just me or does having a Hulkageddon in the current market seem very illogical?
on one hand players are complaning about the rising prices of ships and moduels because of the increason minerals prices.

but at the same time they are going out of their way to try and limite the supply of minerals even further buy killing the very ppl that could held drive the price back down where paying for pvp becomes resonable again.

The players complaining about the overall economy are the ones who comprehend deeper issues than the Hulkageddon folks who don't really care about anything but adrenalin rushes and yucking over their beer. They aren't shooting themselves in the foot as far as they can see, since they're using cheap ships and fits to get their yuks. They'll keep "ganking", calling it a "style of play" when they find it takes too much effort to earn anything in the economy they've created, and call you a crying carebear for noticing its absurdity. It all makes sense somehow, especially if your goal in life is to get drunk, belch and bellow with your buds.

I love people with style.

I thought it was run by market manipulators who sell tornados and catalysts to the one and hulks, macks to the other?

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Gloomy Gus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#102 - 2012-04-21 22:09:23 UTC
players have been complaining about the rising price of ships and modules?

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Praetor Abre-Kai
Pickling Rifles
#103 - 2012-04-23 06:25:25 UTC
Why play eve if you're going to hate on an emergent player driven event? Name me a MMO where an event like this could happen, nothing seeded by CCP just pure player content. I fail to understand why people play Eve but cannot accept the inherent risks involved with the type of environment CCP created.
Bubanni
Primal Instinct Inc.
The Initiative.
#104 - 2012-04-23 06:27:17 UTC
Let me try to explain it for you.... it's fun because we think it's fun... you don't need to know anything else

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#105 - 2012-04-23 06:42:37 UTC
Mining is the cornerstone industry of the EVE economy.

By killing the apathetic and inattentive miners the volume of minerals drops, and the price is forced higher.

The quick witted and attentive miners thrive in a more favorable economy that hasn't existed since the game went live.

Hulkageddon is all about culling the herd and strengthening the economy.

So the next time you see someone gank a hulk that was AFK in a belt, thank the ganker for his service to the community.

You'll be glad you did. Smile

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#106 - 2012-04-23 06:51:31 UTC
I have 2 characters who can mine.

The more people who aren't me who become too scared to mine, the more I can make mining (also the relative price of Hulks will probably fall)

Ergo I should do my best to make sure no one who isn't me mines.




Today's logic has been brought to you by the letters H T F & U.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#107 - 2012-04-23 08:10:36 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Ok let me get this right...

You play a game... called Eve online... this game is about the cruelty of space...crime etc... and you complain about crime etc...Why do you play the game?

Reminds me of the idiots that cry they cannot make isk... I ask them what the game is about... crime etc... I ask them if they have done any crime... they oh no no no nono no I won't do that! I am honourable blah blah... well you see. that is why you cannot make any isk...because you are not playing the game as designed!


Funny, I thought this was an open sandbox for people to play a game about internet spaceships and find their own way to succeed. Don't go pigeonholing everyone into "only one way to be succesful" It's possible to be rich and honourable.

Just requires a bit of effort, a touch of dedication and a thicker skin. But hey if you're too easily tempted by easy street...

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#108 - 2012-04-23 08:20:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Himnos Altar
Ranger 1 wrote:
Mining is the cornerstone industry of the EVE economy.




ShockedWhat?ShockedWhat?RollLol

um, no, it's not. I'd go so far to say that Incursions are a cornerstone industry. Farming Null Sec Rogue Drones are CURRENTLY a cornerstone industry. Level IVs are a cornerstone industry. Market Manipulations are a cornerstone industry.

This may change post-Escalation, but as it stands now....no, just no. I love mining as much as the next guy, but you're dead wrong.

Long live 100% player-driven gameplay, whether it's the asshats trying to gank harmless rocks, the noble asshats ganking the miners, the crafty asshats that have stocked up on minerals to sell during the 'Geddons, or the noble asshats trying to gank the Geddonites.

Because no matter what you're doing, you're being an asshat to somebody.



  • Minding your own business in an NPC corp? You're being an asshat to the guy that wants another number in his Corp attributes.
  • Running Level IVs? You're being an asshat to the poor miners that get crappy ISK/hr because of minerals from mission loot (and killing thousands of virtual people that actually fly those ships. Think of their virtual, asshat children, you asshat).
  • sitting in station? You're being an asshat to the people who want to gank your ship.
  • Interdicting ice and burning down Jita? Asshat to everyone that bothers to mine ice/go to Jita (hint: Dodixie/Amarr are way cooler).
  • Posting on a forum thread? Being an asshat to people that have better things to read.
  • Playing EVE Online? Being an asshat to yourself when you could be out, I don't know, trying to talk to people IRL.



the key to learning to love EVE is to stop being an asshat and start being a kicking ass hat.

I had some fun links I was going to hyperlink into the last two, but the forums were being an asshat.

http://images.villagehatshop.com/media/200423-ass-hat-LG.jpg
http://www.kickinasshats.com/

Confriming I love to say the word asshat.
Basileus Volkan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#109 - 2012-04-23 08:24:49 UTC
BEEP BOOP I'm a robot and I can only gauge how fun an activity is through its potential monetary gain BOOP BOOP.
Whitehound
#110 - 2012-04-23 10:47:28 UTC
Praetor Abre-Kai wrote:
Why play eve if you're going to hate on an emergent player driven event? Name me a MMO where an event like this could happen, nothing seeded by CCP just pure player content. I fail to understand why people play Eve but cannot accept the inherent risks involved with the type of environment CCP created.

Why mine when you are getting ganked for doing it? Name an MMO where this makes sense... The reason why we have Hulkageddon is simply because CCP's ship designs include ships for victims.

Why is it needed to have designated victims in an otherwise good PvP game? Only God knows I guess. Becoming a victim should have an equal opportunity to it and be based on a series of complex choices from which one can learn. Getting into a mining ship or leaving it docked is not much of a choice, leaves little to learn and is not fun.

I can see Hulkageddon as being fun in order to highlight this nonsense, but something tells me that I am pretty much alone with my opinion.

BEEP BOOP HUMP HUMP ...

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#111 - 2012-04-23 11:37:28 UTC
People who object to being suicide ganked in hi-sec should move to this nice, safe nullsec I'm always hearing about and mine there.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016