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GM's setting wallet to Negative - A bit harsh?
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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#81 - 2012-04-21 07:43:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerath Naaris
Aesheera wrote:
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Aesheera wrote:
Buying ISK should result in total closure of said account.

No -ISK, no bans of that one character, leaving 2 possible alts there still okay.

A total, irrevocable, closure.

My 0.02 ISK


Actually no, an ISK-buyer should be able to repay his depts with CCP by getting back into the black via (legal) PLEX.
It´s them he has hurt, after all.


Judging by your signature, I can imagine you'd prefer ban > closure.

Imo, breaking the EULA and feeding the RMT is reason enough to implement a account wide perma ban.



That was a forum thing, moderation can be quite... tight here sometimes as we all know, so it´s more like a badge of honor (kind of Purple Heart for the valiant forum warrior I guess...) Cool

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Ativan Loko
The Poors
#82 - 2012-04-21 16:09:17 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
It's funnier to neg wallet them and watch them struggle for a couple of months (and pay subs) before they give up.

Good riddance to fail rubbish.



+1
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#83 - 2012-04-23 05:53:40 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:

That was a forum thing, moderation can be quite... tight here sometimes as we all know, so it´s more like a badge of honor (kind of Purple Heart for the valiant forum warrior I guess...) Cool

You can get a forum ban for talking smack, just because someone reported you.

I had a sig(the same sig)for quite a while before losing mine.

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tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2012-04-23 21:34:19 UTC
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:
Alright so he's what I'm thinking on this matter, if you disagree, fair enough.

If you buy Isk or PLEX from a site not sanctioned by CCP I thought they will ban you if caught?

I for the last 5 months or so have been incredibly stupid enough to buy my PLEX from a external site. Yes yes I know, flame me etc but I was low on cash and well....lets me honest, its a lot cheaper on some sites.
Anyway, I've been getting away with it until I log in today and noticed that my balance is set to a negative. I check to see that a GM has set it to this amount.
Uh oh, busted...

Yep, well quite frankly thats what I get for being a idiot and breaking the rules right?
Well...sort of...

My wallet now sits at quite a large negative number, well into the billions.
This is my only toon, my main. Grinding back up that kind of isk will take a looooong time...
I thought I'd sell some stuff, ships etc to get the ball rolling.
Oh wait, I can't sell due to the sellers tax.

Better go mission.
Oh wait, I can't repair or buy ammo.


Have they always punished players who buy isk like this?

I'm sorry for what I've done and I completely deserve to be punished but quite frankly I'd prefer a ban and my wallet set to 0.
At least after a ban I will return to EvE without question, but this? I have no way of making up that isk unless I spend months missioning...thats a tad bit harsh CCP don't you think?


So I guess I'm just looking for a GM or such to respond with their view on this matter.
I'm all for taking a ban, I deserve to be banned for a time, I broke the rules.

I just don't agree with this form of punishment.

Thanks


Edit:
Going to Biomass Hammer.
My own fault for cheating, I deserve as much as I get.
Sorry everyone.

Fly safe o7



sorry, sweety pie, but yes, you are definitely a very, naughty boy!!!! never buy PLEX from a non-sanctioned CCP site.
And the punishment suits the crime. If you bought say 10 billion worth of Plexes, your negative wallet will be the same. The only way to get it back to positive is to either (a) get a second account so it can make iskies and then send it to your 1st account aka Hammer's or (b) get an alt made on Hammer's account and start doing the same as (a)
I wouldn't biomass Hammer if he's such an epic character and you put so much effort into him. how hard was it for you to train him and make him start blitzing level 4 missions? nothing's impossible in eve. good luck Hammer
tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2012-04-23 21:36:42 UTC
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:
Daisai wrote:
Quit the game and let CCP deal with that they lost another player.



Heh...

No thanks, EvE is too much fun to simply quit, if it comes down to it I'll have to roll another toon and mourn the loss of this guy forever...



don't biomass yourself. get going on an alt and start blitzing missions!!!!
Anamaniac
New Eden Shipwright LLC
#86 - 2012-07-06 06:07:30 UTC
I was wondering what happened to Hammerin' Snatch.I guess I should have kept him and not sold him off after creating him...R.I.P.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-07-06 06:57:36 UTC
as for sellers tax, make a noob alt and trade him **** to sell

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Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#88 - 2012-07-06 10:07:22 UTC
Sounds like you got off too easy.

Permanent ban is what you deserve.
Bethany Ring
Perkone
Caldari State
#89 - 2012-07-06 10:44:29 UTC
Ghost Xray wrote:
Sounds like you got off too easy.

Permanent ban is what you deserve.

You should be banned for not agreeing with CCP policy.

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Private Pineapple
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2012-07-06 11:31:34 UTC
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:
Alright so he's what I'm thinking on this matter, if you disagree, fair enough.

If you buy Isk or PLEX from a site not sanctioned by CCP I thought they will ban you if caught?

I for the last 5 months or so have been incredibly stupid enough to buy my PLEX from a external site. Yes yes I know, flame me etc but I was low on cash and well....lets me honest, its a lot cheaper on some sites.
Anyway, I've been getting away with it until I log in today and noticed that my balance is set to a negative. I check to see that a GM has set it to this amount.
Uh oh, busted...

Yep, well quite frankly thats what I get for being a idiot and breaking the rules right?
Well...sort of...

My wallet now sits at quite a large negative number, well into the billions.
This is my only toon, my main. Grinding back up that kind of isk will take a looooong time...
I thought I'd sell some stuff, ships etc to get the ball rolling.
Oh wait, I can't sell due to the sellers tax.

Better go mission.
Oh wait, I can't repair or buy ammo.


Have they always punished players who buy isk like this?

I'm sorry for what I've done and I completely deserve to be punished but quite frankly I'd prefer a ban and my wallet set to 0.
At least after a ban I will return to EvE without question, but this? I have no way of making up that isk unless I spend months missioning...thats a tad bit harsh CCP don't you think?


So I guess I'm just looking for a GM or such to respond with their view on this matter.
I'm all for taking a ban, I deserve to be banned for a time, I broke the rules.

I just don't agree with this form of punishment.

Thanks


Edit:
Going to Biomass Hammer.
My own fault for cheating, I deserve as much as I get.
Sorry everyone.

Fly safe o7


From the context of your post, it seems like you bought a single PLEX but your wallet got negated by billions.

I thought CCP only sets your wallet to the negative amount of whatever you RMT'd for? Such as if you RMT 500 billion your wallet is set to -500 billion? Did they increase the punishment in the last couple years while I've been gone?

.
Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2012-07-06 12:11:59 UTC
Private Pineapple wrote:
From the context of your post, it seems like you bought a single PLEX but your wallet got negated by billions.


No. From the context of his post he bought at least 5 months worth of PLEX.
Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons
Silver Dragonz
#92 - 2012-07-06 12:12:16 UTC
Go acquire legally gained plex and sell on market. Pray to space buddah no one undercuts you or gibs you as you undock from 4-4. Don't do it again.
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2012-07-06 12:18:32 UTC
Guys, this thread died already at the end of april !
flakeys
Doomheim
#94 - 2012-07-06 13:22:03 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Guys, this thread died already at the end of april !



Shhh let them enjoy their moment ...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Vim Toe
#95 - 2012-07-06 13:40:35 UTC
You say buying ISK from CCP is overpriced, Surely your negative bank balance tells you that its cheap in comparison?
Beachura
Doomheim
#96 - 2012-07-06 19:58:50 UTC
Kepie wrote:
Do you always violate things you agree to?


Your mother.
Lady Aja
#97 - 2012-07-06 21:24:18 UTC
Lol Doomheim...

i guess he biomassed and started from fresh OR... bought a new toon or just plain emoragequit!
where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!!
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#98 - 2012-07-07 02:26:43 UTC
Daisai wrote:
Quit the game and find another one to ruin with RMT, you worthless parasite.



Fixed.

No ******* sympathy, the door is that way ---->


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Beachura
Doomheim
#99 - 2012-07-08 14:46:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Beachura
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Daisai wrote:
Quit the game and find another one to ruin with RMT, you worthless parasite.



Fixed.

No ******* sympathy, the door is that way ---->




Hey, individuals like you are the reason eve is less populated than it should be. It's not everyone else's fault you're heartless, cold and moronic because you live in a basement with your parents and don't understand the term 'relationship'. The guy paid some real life cash to help him in a game, he doesn't deserve that kind of comment kid.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#100 - 2012-07-09 03:35:49 UTC
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:
Alright so he's what I'm thinking on this matter, if you disagree, fair enough.

If you buy Isk or PLEX from a site not sanctioned by CCP I thought they will ban you if caught?

I for the last 5 months or so have been incredibly stupid enough to buy my PLEX from a external site. Yes yes I know, flame me etc but I was low on cash and well....lets me honest, its a lot cheaper on some sites.
Anyway, I've been getting away with it until I log in today and noticed that my balance is set to a negative. I check to see that a GM has set it to this amount.
Uh oh, busted...

Yep, well quite frankly thats what I get for being a idiot and breaking the rules right?
Well...sort of...

My wallet now sits at quite a large negative number, well into the billions.
This is my only toon, my main. Grinding back up that kind of isk will take a looooong time...
I thought I'd sell some stuff, ships etc to get the ball rolling.
Oh wait, I can't sell due to the sellers tax.

Better go mission.
Oh wait, I can't repair or buy ammo.


Have they always punished players who buy isk like this?

I'm sorry for what I've done and I completely deserve to be punished but quite frankly I'd prefer a ban and my wallet set to 0.
At least after a ban I will return to EvE without question, but this? I have no way of making up that isk unless I spend months missioning...thats a tad bit harsh CCP don't you think?


So I guess I'm just looking for a GM or such to respond with their view on this matter.
I'm all for taking a ban, I deserve to be banned for a time, I broke the rules.

I just don't agree with this form of punishment.

Thanks


Edit:
Going to Biomass Hammer.
My own fault for cheating, I deserve as much as I get.
Sorry everyone.

Fly safe o7


CCP tend to take away the ammount of isk you bought, then that ammount again to encourage players not to do this in the future. I agree with this form of punishment.

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