EVE Information Portal

This, a thousand times over.

e:
Everyone has seen what's been happening to the market. We experience it on a daily basis.

You've basically regurgitated information it to us that is blatantly obvious and put a graph to it. It's pretty arrogant to think the player base is ignorant to more ~complex~ theories on economy. You mentioned at Fanfest that the playerbase is cunning and intelligent. I forget your exact words, however start treating us as such and please start communicating to us the things we look forward to hearing from you and concepts that are above a child's level of understanding.

You literally have a dream job for any economist.

Looking forward to the extremely quiet relaxation of attacking bots by CCP, say, by August, when they start seeing subs drop when people can't afford basic ships. The smart play would be to rescind the meta 0 removal of loot before it is even implemented, but CCP has shown time and time again they are not that bright.

I started a thread a month ago asking CCP to slow down on all these changes simultaneously.
No one apparently at CCP has any clue on what the eventual impact will be, and that is NOT a good thing, regardless of what null sec zealots and anarchists like CCP Soundwave says.

Oh, and for the winter release, CCP will also be implementing changes to protect high sec miners more.
They don't want to now, but they will have no choice, once they realize just what percentage of the low end minerals came from high sec. The meta 0 loot obliteration, plus the ease of ganking and griefing via the new war dec mechanic are going to choke that low end mineral supply even further. And the game will lose a lot of appeal when that happens.

I am betting on a 3-5% reduction in subs by September, and 10% by the winter, unless CCP implements major fixes to the mechanics they will be releasing with Inferno.

Of course, this destruction of a significant part of the game and player base is OK with the null sec dominated CSM, and their group of allies with CCP. So maybe the fixes that will be needed will not happen. But I am also thinking the marketing team may actually win this battle and reverse all the awful ideas within Inferno.

Seriously, fix them. This is ridiculous.

It is easy to mine up enough minerals to build your own frigates.
A bit more difficult as you go up in ship class until you reach the big battleships where "mining your own" just won't cut it.

And before one of you jokers comes in with "but minerals aren't free": neither is isk.
In either case it is a matter of how much time you have to play the game to get what you want out of it.

"It started with changes in Mexallon due to increased demand for the production of the new Tier 3 battlecruisers. Figure 2 shows clearly the jump in Mexallon between November and December in 2011." quote from the devblog


this quote is a typical example of market analysists usings certain figures to project what they want. or what they think is the case.

why by that graph does ccp think tier 3 battlecruisers contributed to a sharp mexallon rise and not someone market manipulating on the back of tier 3 introduction? The primary use for tier 3's currently is ganking and long range fleet roams. in the first case lots of tier 3 BC's are lost and in the second scenario this is not usually the case. We also have to assume an over production of the BC at the beginning to supply an expectant demand.

none of these points were put forward in the case for the mexallon rise at the time of tier 3 production and in my opnion the wrong graphs were/are being used to calculate the price indices. Why do we not see volumes of mexallon anywhere? everyone who plays the market knows about market history manipulation and so the graphs can be screwed easily.

If we see quantities of mexallon before and after the tier 3 patch surely this would be a better indication of how tier 3 BC's affected the market and how much market manipulation was going on.


Until we start to see mineral volumes along side pricing indices you can't expect to deduce any reasoning behind the mexallon price spike.

nice.... We now need stronger mining ship... To drop mineral prices....

This, I think, is probably the most interesting bit. There is some inferential (and some anecdotal) information that implies that that, at least, some noticable portion of the drone minerals never actually worked thier way through normal market pathways. If this is the case, then a "nerf" to drone minerals is insignificant to overall prices. When you couple this with some of the other "nerfs" that are incoming, or have been hinted at, we might actually see enough decline in demand that population upticks will not be able to compensate for.

EVE ONLINE SMASH PUNY BROWSER!!!
HURAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Great Work CCP.

Thanks to you, those Miners get more isks.

but unfortunatly that drives inflation up through the roof top.

so basically, the miner dopples his income and the prices for T1 ships
(and everything else which is maily based on mostly minerals) will also be doppeled.
So the miner can still buy the same amount of Hurricanes for 1 h of mining.

so basically this means: the Prices for T1 Shipps will explode, T2/T3 will increase.
T1 Moduels will explode T2 will increase.
So for the future you have to rat 1 h in 0.0 for 1 BC instead of 1 BS, or you are forced to mine your own Minerals.
Good Work CCP this will defenetly lead to more small scale fights and those Supers / Titans Blobs will increase,
because nobody can affort BS anymore...

I hope everyone has put his/her ISKs into Materials / Ships whatever, as long as you dont have any isk on your account...

God bless hyperinflation.


This is the reason why I don't bother to read his "Def"blog anymore. They are Bull***t...

Where I come from we have a saying:
Only trust those statistic you faked yourself.



Nope that dosn't mean Mining becomes "lucrative" it means prices are going to explode and those miners can not buy more T1 ships for there money.
They can buy more Implants or other NPC sold **** but everything else is going to get expensive.
So the real questions is: how many Mining Forman Links can you put in your Brain....

As far as I can remember, somone said something about 40% of minerals are coming from the drone regions....
Guess what happens if 40% from the offer disappears...

Good bye Drakes for 34 Mil, Hello Drake for 100 -120 Mil...