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Andara Dark
Exclusion Enterprises
#1 - 2012-04-22 16:56:43 UTC
So i just moved in to a class 3 Wormhole and i have run all of the sites bar the to mining sites that are in here

didnt get a hulk in here so at this time i cant grind them out but i was wanting to know how often to Wormhole site's respawn wether thay are ladar grav ect

so in short when do i get more spawn's!!!!

any help with this would be great

o7
Just Alter
Futures Abstractions
#2 - 2012-04-22 17:05:39 UTC
I've been told, but dont know if it is true, that site respawn time increase if you have less than 3 sites.

Apart from that wh sites work in the same way as normal k-space sites; when you complete one it respawn in a system in the same constellation.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-04-22 18:01:45 UTC
Just Alter wrote:
I've been told, but dont know if it is true, that site respawn time increase if you have less than 3 sites.

Apart from that wh sites work in the same way as normal k-space sites; when you complete one it respawn in a system in the same constellation.


Here it goes again.

There have been many experiements on the respawn of WH sites. None have been completely conclusive. The best guess seems that CCP used the same engine to govern the spawning of sites in WH as they use for k-space (why would they reinvent the wheel?)

That said it is largely random. I have gone days with nothing new spawning and had many sites spawn all day on some days.
TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-04-22 21:03:54 UTC
That's pretty much a WH noob error. Never ever run all your sites because they can take a while to begin to spawn again.

Rule of thumb : Clear out adjoining WHs first before yours. There is no "extra" risk in doing this as there's still no local so D-scan is your best friend. If you are not great with D-scan you gotta do the 3 Ls

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Its best to keep your holes sites to a minimum then you don't get unwanted attention hanging around just leave 2-3-4 sites hanging there and more will spawn.

Indeed whatever spawns is random, I lived in a C3 for about 18 months and we went some time for combat sites, we had aload of ladars instead which is ok I guess...
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-04-22 21:06:38 UTC
It's random.

People will tell you it's based on the number of sites you have, other will tell you it's based on the sites being run in your constellation and other theories.

I've been in WHs a long time and I've never seen any evidence of it being anything other than random.

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-04-22 23:17:46 UTC
I like the theory that they respawn randomly in the same constellation once they’re cleared, and I know some large w-space groups put a lot of effort into trying to get a presence in every system in the constellation of their home system(s) for just that reason.

Having said that I hafta agree with Jack … there’s no good evidence to suggest anything other than random. I also agree that you’ll get told lots of different stuff by different people.

My experience, having now lived most of my eve-life in w-space, is that you can go several days without anything new spawning, and you can get a dozen in one day. On average my C3s would bring something along like 3 – 5 new anoms and 1 – 2 new non-WH sigs per day.

As for ppl advising you to ‘farm’ systems via your static … well that’s one style of w-space play and it is often necessary for large groups that setup in low-end w-systems. Those larger groups need to farm via their static to keep a decent per-member income flowing. For some groups it’s also a convenient way to harvest high-end w-systems and yet keep great access to hisec (e.g. C2 with a static to C4/C5).
A C3, however, can also be run very profitably solo or by small-group, without static farming. I am still living off the savings from my last C3 home, and reckon I have a few more months of losing ships before I’m going to have to head back for a month or so of sleeper shooting again to replenish the wallet.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
drdxie
#7 - 2012-04-23 01:08:54 UTC
I lived solo, dual boxed, in a C3 for 18 or so months. Spawns are random, although I do like the idea of the constellation theory. When I was in a C3 I got better spawn rates than the C4, and if you jump around the wh's, you will see lots of C4's with anoms to run and not very populated, they also take a longer time to respawn. C3's are almost all occupied and respawn rates are quicker. I run all the combat sites I can, no point leaving it for someone else, and I made enough isk solo in the C3 to cover all my expenses and still waste tons. C4 is not so great, needed a budy to run sites, spawns are slow. So stick with the C3 till you can get to a C5 or C6 and just run everything. Also take all your loot out, no telling when you will get jumped. Keep an scanning alt in the wh in cases you get poded.

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Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#8 - 2012-04-23 04:06:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Bernie Nator
Run your statics sites before your own, and leave yours for a rainy day.

I saw this mostly because once your sites are gone, respawn on them can take awhile. Like, we're talking upwards of weeks. But if you run the sites in your static, you get new sites every hole you get. Unless it's inhabited. Then it's combat time. But for the most part, it's real easy to just do c2 static c2 and run sites all day, make plenty of isk.
discordigant
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-04-23 04:32:19 UTC
This is why it's much better to have a home with a farming ground attached.

If your static has no sites, roll it until it does.
If your static has active people run their sites until they balls up to pew pew with you.
If you can't do the above. move back to K-space.

Think i am all out of ifs now. Lol
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#10 - 2012-04-23 05:01:53 UTC
discordigant wrote:
This is why it's much better to have a home with a farming ground attached.

If your static has no sites, roll it until it does.
If your static has active people run their sites until they balls up to pew pew with you.
If you can't do the above. move back to K-space.

Think i am all out of ifs now. Lol

You forgot "If it is empty and tons of sites are there, run the sites."
discordigant
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-04-23 05:04:44 UTC
Bernie Nator wrote:
discordigant wrote:
This is why it's much better to have a home with a farming ground attached.

If your static has no sites, roll it until it does.
If your static has active people run their sites until they balls up to pew pew with you.
If you can't do the above. move back to K-space.

Think i am all out of ifs now. Lol

You forgot "If it is empty and tons of sites are there, run the sites."


It was implied in option one.... however i do prefer option two.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2012-04-23 06:47:45 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:

My experience, having now lived most of my eve-life in w-space, is that you can go several days without anything new spawning, and you can get a dozen in one day. On average my C3s would bring something along like 3 – 5 new anoms and 1 – 2 new non-WH sigs per day.


Our C3 spawns 3 anoms per day very consistently, plus that amount of sigs.

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A C3, however, can also be run very profitably solo or by small-group, without static farming. I am still living off the savings from my last C3 home, and reckon I have a few more months of losing ships before I’m going to have to head back for a month or so of sleeper shooting again to replenish the wallet.


Confirming this as well. We have "normal/casual" play hours, and the home sites are plenty enough for us all. And I don't see how anyone could even run the sites everyday, they are super repetitive and we rather fly out to find something meatier to shoot. They do however bring targets to our home, which is nice Pirate



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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#13 - 2012-04-23 12:17:14 UTC
It's called random.

Can you imagine everyone 'waiting at the gates' if spawns happened at an exact published time ?

RANDOM --- learn to love it.

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Shenra Twrin
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-04-23 14:09:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Shenra Twrin
Jack Miton wrote:
It's random.

People will tell you it's based on the number of sites you have, other will tell you it's based on the sites being run in your constellation and other theories.

I've been in WHs a long time and I've never seen any evidence of it being anything other than random.


This pretty much. Sometimes u get 5 Sites sometimes 1 in 3 days and its completly wayne if its totaly empty or not

Brofist WH bud even when you are in exhale ^^

Also gogo people more people in c5 so many empty holes there :[
Marsan
#15 - 2012-04-23 15:34:30 UTC
Note on the ladar site that thewill spawn a few sleepers if you warp in and shoot the rocks a bit. You never know when the sleepers will drop a ribbon. Also a clean system makes you look more active, and people tend to leave you alone.


PS- I advise if you are serious about living in wspace have both rock and a gas mining ships to maximize your return. You don't need to mine every rock or cloud in the site, but the higher end ore/gas can be worthwhile.

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