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Noob Questions: High Sec Miner ganking.
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Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#41 - 2012-04-22 11:04:25 UTC
Arkturus McFadden wrote:
Hey folks, just a quick question about the origins of this popular "trend" of sorts


Where did this originate from? Did it begin with killing mining bots and eventually spiraled down to killing any and all (if the opportunity arose) miners in high sec

Also, why is this done? for amusement? From what I understand of EVE, don't miners make mineral prices go down? Which then leads to more PVP because we all can get ships

Thanks for the replies.


at the simplest, most basic level, it's the same as Everest--Because you're there.
Lord Dravius
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-04-22 11:22:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Dravius
Jacob Staffuer wrote:

Pretty much just a bunch of cyber bullies who have found a safe haven because this sort of thing is tolerated in EVE.

Confirming you watch too much Fox "news".

Arkturus McFadden wrote:
Hey folks, just a quick question about the origins of this popular "trend" of sorts


Where did this originate from? Did it begin with killing mining bots and eventually spiraled down to killing any and all (if the opportunity arose) miners in high sec

Also, why is this done? for amusement? From what I understand of EVE, don't miners make mineral prices go down? Which then leads to more PVP because we all can get ships

Thanks for the replies.

A combination of getting rid of bots and just for entertainment currently. Don't remember how it started.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#43 - 2012-04-22 13:42:17 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:

B) Ethnic cleansing.
Think Serbs in Bosnia. Carebears are scum. They constantly whine "vote" for a safer highsec. This makes them undesirable. CCP listens, because there are simply too many of them. Repeatedly threatening and ganking a miner (especially younger ones) sometimes makes them give up and cancel subscription. This silences their whines forever, and New Eden becomes a better place for the rest of us to live.

Simple as that.


The same could be said about gankbears (and yes,, you are BEARS) being scum, and you constantly whine for more easy kills..

grow a set of ******* balls and go shoot something that shoots back you coward

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#44 - 2012-04-22 13:53:39 UTC
Arkturus McFadden wrote:
The mining industry is what keeps the longevity of this game alive from what I understand.. so why flat out try and disrupt it?


Because stupid is as stupid does.

Anyway, there are thousands of things to do besides mining during H'geddon. It's really not that big of a deal.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Ativan Loko
The Poors
#45 - 2012-04-22 14:49:55 UTC
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
Arkturus McFadden wrote:
Hey folks, just a quick question about the origins of this popular "trend" of sorts


Where did this originate from? Did it begin with killing mining bots and eventually spiraled down to killing any and all (if the opportunity arose) miners in high sec

Also, why is this done? for amusement? From what I understand of EVE, don't miners make mineral prices go down? Which then leads to more PVP because we all can get ships

Thanks for the replies.


Pretty much just a bunch of cyber bullies who have found a safe haven because this sort of thing is tolerated in EVE.


MMM... Tears sooo good! Pirate
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#46 - 2012-04-22 14:53:59 UTC
Ativan Loko wrote:


MMM... Tears sooo good! Pirate



That's a pretty low standard if you consider that tears.........

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Arkturus McFadden
Anukar
#47 - 2012-04-22 17:56:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkturus McFadden
Ativan Loko wrote:
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
Arkturus McFadden wrote:
Hey folks, just a quick question about the origins of this popular "trend" of sorts


Where did this originate from? Did it begin with killing mining bots and eventually spiraled down to killing any and all (if the opportunity arose) miners in high sec

Also, why is this done? for amusement? From what I understand of EVE, don't miners make mineral prices go down? Which then leads to more PVP because we all can get ships

Thanks for the replies.


Pretty much just a bunch of cyber bullies who have found a safe haven because this sort of thing is tolerated in EVE.


MMM... Tears sooo good! Pirate



See when I think tears... I think a tech 3 cruiser kill thats worth a billion isk as viable tears to soak up and enjoy. But high sec miners? It's like an earlier poster mentioned..

Freighter kill = skill.
Mining boat = ???
Arkturus McFadden
Anukar
#48 - 2012-04-22 17:58:40 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Arkturus McFadden wrote:
The mining industry is what keeps the longevity of this game alive from what I understand.. so why flat out try and disrupt it?


Because stupid is as stupid does.

Anyway, there are thousands of things to do besides mining during H'geddon. It's really not that big of a deal.


Your right, there is quite a bit of things to do.. but this expands well beyond Hulkageddon..

I see people in local killing miners quite a bit when I'm traveling through high sec doing my daily tasks. It just seems extremely counterproductive to kill people that help us.
Arkturus McFadden
Anukar
#49 - 2012-04-22 18:19:08 UTC
From all of this, this seems like a classic case of inability to adapt.

I don't see how going out of your way to kill miners for "ethnic cleansing", ect ect is going to help this game at all. With the upcoming changes, wouldn't that encourage mining corporations to actually look for security so they can venture into said high risk areas? Wouldn't that bring back these so called "old ways" you individuals long for?

Why not just let the game take its course and stop trying to force a playstyle on people that don't want to play like that? Why not let the changes made give people the option to do exactly what you want them to do instead of discouraging them to play the game at all?
Eryn Velasquez
#50 - 2012-04-22 19:43:08 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:

B) Ethnic cleansing.
Think Serbs in Bosnia. Carebears are scum. They constantly whine "vote" for a safer highsec. This makes them undesirable. CCP listens, because there are simply too many of them. Repeatedly threatening and ganking a miner (especially younger ones) sometimes makes them give up and cancel subscription. This silences their whines forever, and New Eden becomes a better place for the rest of us to live.

Simple as that.


Wow, CCP should be lucky to have persons taking care of unwanted paying customers. Wish i had some of these in my business, so i can earn less. Ugh

wtf

_“A man's freedom consists in his being able to do whatever he wills, but that he should not, by any human power, be forced to do what is against his will.” ― Jean-Jacques Rousseau _
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-04-22 20:13:02 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:

B) Ethnic cleansing.
Think Serbs in Bosnia. Carebears are scum. They constantly whine "vote" for a safer highsec. This makes them undesirable. CCP listens, because there are simply too many of them. Repeatedly threatening and ganking a miner (especially younger ones) sometimes makes them give up and cancel subscription. This silences their whines forever, and New Eden becomes a better place for the rest of us to live.

Simple as that.

Dude,you okay?

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Ank Parkor
WildSpace Otters
#52 - 2012-04-22 20:44:41 UTC
Denidil wrote:
The same could be said about gankbears (and yes,, you are BEARS) being scum, and you constantly whine for more easy kills..

grow a set of ******* balls and go shoot something that shoots back you coward


I love the word gankbears, well found.
Oh, you're right too.

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Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2012-04-23 00:19:25 UTC
So much mad from the carebears
Arkturus McFadden
Anukar
#54 - 2012-04-23 01:03:40 UTC
Ustrello wrote:
So much mad from the carebears


Wouldn't you say it's rightly so?

I can't really say I really care how they feel per-say.. but I just REALLY wish to understand why this is being done.. it seems to hurt the gankers as much as it does the carebears..

So why do it?
Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2012-04-23 02:04:14 UTC
cause its fun?
DU1 -Sia
Lamorei Prosapia Vexillum
#56 - 2012-04-23 02:51:40 UTC
Some will do it just for the tears but there is more to it.

A lot of the big organized industrial ganking, ie hulkageddon and Burn Jita are nothing more than market manipulation and or scams.

Both those two are organized by groups who have a vested interest in the death of industrials, mostly because at heart they are industrialists with huge mining ops at work with big shiny well researched bpo's of whatever is being targeted the most.

Some buy into the whole kill industry make everyone cry malarky, but all there doing is handing bigger profits to different people.

On another note... cyber-bullying is being wrongly used. If you want to ***** about that subject use it right cyber-bullying is an act between two adolescents, cyber harassment is between adults (yes its irrelevant to mental age)
Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-04-23 13:52:03 UTC
DU1 -Sia wrote:
Some will do it just for the tears but there is more to it.

A lot of the big organized industrial ganking, ie hulkageddon and Burn Jita are nothing more than market manipulation and or scams.

Both those two are organized by groups who have a vested interest in the death of industrials, mostly because at heart they are industrialists with huge mining ops at work with big shiny well researched bpo's of whatever is being targeted the most.

Some buy into the whole kill industry make everyone cry malarky, but all there doing is handing bigger profits to different people.

On another note... cyber-bullying is being wrongly used. If you want to ***** about that subject use it right cyber-bullying is an act between two adolescents, cyber harassment is between adults (yes its irrelevant to mental age)


:tinfoilhat:
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#58 - 2012-04-23 14:11:30 UTC
Ustrello wrote:
So much mad from the carebears



Which ones, Industrial or PvP ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Ustrello
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2012-04-23 15:53:11 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Ustrello wrote:
So much mad from the carebears



Which ones, Industrial or PvP ?


That's cute that you think pvpers are carebears
Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-04-23 16:08:22 UTC
Ustrello wrote:
That's cute that you think pvpers are carebears


The ones ganking miners in high security space are most definitely carebears.

Shooting a mining ship is even LESS dangerous than shooting an NPC rat.

LOL @ PVP IS ALL ABOUT RISK!