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You mean Torfi's "TotalHellDeath" video from that Fanfest Keynote speech? Yeah, I was in the front row.

Here's the thing. trying to demonstrate that you have the biggest fanboy hardon for DUST is infantile, not impressive. A lot of people have been following this thing from the moment the first breadcrumbs were thrown. You're not unique in your enthusiasm, nor does being the BIGGEST DUST FAN EVAR entitle you to special treatment.



You're missing the point. They don't yet need feedback on sov mechanics and how the game impacts FiS right now. I guarantee you that those are among the things to which they've given the most serious thought, in fact. Us EVE veterans are, at the moment, less likely to have valuable feedback for them next to the feedback from the much, MUCH larger target audience of people who are not EVE veterans.

Sure, CCP will almost certainly want to hear the veterans' opinions on the things you mentioned. But what they want and need most at the moment is to know whether or not somebody with no prior experience of EVE Online can pick up the game and get their bearings quickly because if their New Player Experience isn't up to scratch then that's the first priority to get fixed.

For example, you are familiar with the idea of a skill having a maximum of five levels. Somebody completely new to the setting won't be, and CCP will want to know, among other things, whether or not that maximum is made clear enough to avoid people getting confused and complaining about not being able to skill up.



"And myself in particular?" Okay, I'll come back to that in a second, but before I do... Have you never heard of the word "yet" before? You are not in the beta YET.

YET.





Remember that "and myself in particular" bit? As if you're somehow the magical princess snowflake pony and CCP should be worshipping you and combing your mane?

"Oh, it's okay. I don't have a sense of entitlement. I just want my nice gift RIGHT NOW. I'm owed it because I am more excited for DUST than you are."

Let me tell you what you're actually entitled to:

The service you are buying from CCP is access to Tranquility and play time in EVE Online. that's it. That's all your money is good for, and all they're legally obliged to give you under the terms of the contract between company and customer. Things like anniversary handouts, beta keys, fanfest goodies and so on? they're gifts. Perks. bonuses. CCP being nice and giving us stuff that we didn't actually pay for because they're good people like that.

And you're throwing a tantrum because you weren't the first kid to sit on Santa's lap this year.


Let me be perfectly clear: YOU HAVE NOT BEEN LET DOWN.

Sure, if the game actually goes to full release without any EVE player ever getting into the beta, THEN we'll have been let down. THEN it would be reasonable to complain.

Right now what's happening is that the first wave of the beta has started, you weren't lucky enough to get in on it, and so you're raging. Can't you see how childish that is?

Umm, OK. Seriously, I couldn't care less about DUST. I am no fan of FPS games, but when a company makes promises to its subscribers, note: "Go to fanfest, get the key become the FIRST to beta test" and then we find out that the subcontracted company, SONY, is seemingly, NOT honoring its agreements and giving out keys to 5000 random people while NOT honoring the fanfest keys is bad enough.

To then come onto the EVE forums and start shaking the BAN HAMMER at the player base, which didn't even get the keys, because of the actions of SONY players/ execs, is really beyond the pale.

It's getting harder and harder to actually promote this company to others.

"The tax on custom offices in concord space will be DOUBLED" means "the costs will explode exponentially because we are now adding market value to the calculations." (In other words, DOUBLE means "multiplied by whatever number we feel like.")

"Pos fuels should be converted into blocks in about a week, traditional fuels will no longer work after this" means "keep traditional fuels in the towers for up to a month while we work everything out."

I could go on, but I trust you get the point.

It's not about "ME PLAY EVE! GIVE ME MOAR STUFF! RAAARRRGGGG!"

It's "Hey! You said one thing, and are doing something else, and now you're yelling at US about it!"

The instruction is written on the piece of paper with the key. However the FanFest trial isn't open for another week or so which is why the webpage only showing a coming soon™ banner for now.

The NDA breaching people mentioned in this thread are using the Sony distributed keys so completely different.

I believe the lady on the first page noted that the game is probably DOA anyway, because some video had gotten 8 views?

I don't care enough about DUST to go find the video and confirm her hypothesis, but I will remind you guys this......

You are getting pretty excited about a console shooter. Those things have a shelflife of about 6 months at most. Really. You might want to check yourself before you wreck yourself..... emotionally when DUST flops like a dead whale at a Maori whaling ceremony.

Honestly though, DUST is as bad an idea as Ambulation was. Just divorce yourself from it emotionally, and remember to undock your spaceship, and everything will be ok.

Counter-Strike and Planetside are console shooters now?

I have attempted for about ten minutes to hunt down a news article, dev blog, or advert regarding Fanfest that makes a claim close to that, and I can't find any.

Please direct me to where CCP made that promise.



Counter-Strike is on Xbox 360 and PS3, Stitcher appears to be mistaken about Planetside being on consoles though there was a time Sony implied Planetside 2 would be on the PS3 as well as PC. So as a response to Firnas, her claim is false as her proof is false, an FPS on a console can remain popular for a long time.


I don't know why people are crying about CCP putting this reminder up on the EVE Online forums. It's just a reminder to any EVE players who may have gotten into the group currently beta testing DUST, no harm in covering all the bases.

I'm sorry, but I knew this was going to happen as soon as the PSN got in, which is why I expected them to be the very last people let in. Oh well, I guess it's clean-up time now.

DUST made me want to get a PS3, but now I'm scared I'll be banned for excitement.

@ CCP

You invited members of an organization,with a professed dedication to destroying your other game, to a beta.
An organization which has made tangible efforts to carry out its goal both IRL and in game.

Now you are crying that people arent following your rules for being in beta.


Seriously CCP - are you this dumb or is it pretend?