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So I can Undock a Carrier: What Next ???
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Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-22 13:39:26 UTC
I have ample time before my next reamp so I trained up Capital Ships IV + Gallente Carrier IV + Jump Drive Operation II. I can now undock a Thanatos, big whoop. I am only in a research mode at this point. I want to determine if I should dedicate a Remap to the Thanatos or not. I could also follow the Black Ops pathway as I have large investments in Cov Ops and Recons. With all this in mind, I have some generic questions:

1) What should I include in a training plan to really fly a Thanatos?
2) What are the typical end-goals for a Thanatos?

Sane Speculation:
My drone skills are maxed so in that area I would train for fighters + fighter mods and related skills.
Training for Capital mods is also an obvious necessity.

Wild Speculation:
I have never seen this discussed on the forums but I had the idea that I could fit a Thanatos for lo sec incursions. A goal like that would drive and define a training plan for a long while. Also, I have read that Lvl V missions are doable in a Thanatos, but that you could get easily be ganked by a small focused team of pirates, i.e., it is really risky.

Just research at this point, but any comments you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#2 - 2012-04-22 13:47:48 UTC
Won't fit through the acceleration gates in incursions....and I think the fighters would probably get murdered to death.

L5's are doable, though.

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Adacia Calla
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-04-22 13:50:10 UTC
Why would you buy a carrier if you had no idea what to do with it?

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#4 - 2012-04-22 14:01:33 UTC
Next step is to jump to my cyno.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-04-22 14:12:21 UTC
Adacia Calla wrote:
Why would you buy a carrier if you had no idea what to do with it?

Sorry for any confusion, but I didn't buy a carrier. I only trained for one to utilize my current brain mapping. Like I tried to say, I have a bunch of time left prior to my next remap, so I trained for a Thanatos.
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-22 14:14:53 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
Next step is to jump to my cyno.

lol - and is there a birthday cake with candles waiting for me at your cyno coordinates?
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#7 - 2012-04-22 15:23:04 UTC
Yes. I can promise you there will even be fireworks and a laser light show!

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Dibblerette
Solitude-Industries
#8 - 2012-04-22 17:04:15 UTC
Well, the Thanatos is largely considered a PvE carrier due to the drone bonus, so you could always sit your carrier at a POS and assign fighters out to alts/corpmates to run anoms. Carriers are also very useful for moving fitted ships around, so if you ever go to nullsec you can help out. Just be careful about who you tell about your carrier capabilities, you might get jumped.

It really depends on where you want to take your carrier, but you should definitely train the two jump drive skills (operation and Calibration?). Most alliances assume 4's on each, so if you don't have this and are in a carrier train, you might get left behind because you used all your fuel/couldn't make it all the way to target system.
Katalci
Kismesis
#9 - 2012-04-22 20:51:09 UTC
Get JDC 5 and JFC 4 ASAP
Then train for an Archon.
Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
#10 - 2012-04-22 21:47:16 UTC
Sounds like you care way too much about SP per hour if you're choosing skills based on your attributes and not, you know, stuff that will be useful.
Megos Adriano
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-04-22 22:22:20 UTC
Urgg Boolean wrote:
Adacia Calla wrote:
Why would you buy a carrier if you had no idea what to do with it?

Sorry for any confusion, but I didn't buy a carrier. I only trained for one to utilize my current brain mapping. Like I tried to say, I have a bunch of time left prior to my next remap, so I trained for a Thanatos.


Why would you spend 4 years in an NPC corp and then train for a carrier?

And boom goes the dynamite.
Copine Callmeknau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-04-23 03:09:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Copine Callmeknau
L5 mish ofc
It isn't all that risky, I don't think I've ever had to actually warp out of a mission due to pirate threat, been running them for like 18 months now


ie. by the time you actually get caught and killed, the thing will have paid for itself so many times over that you'll just be able to undock one of your many other carriers and finish the mish

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-04-23 05:19:22 UTC
Megos Adriano wrote:
Urgg Boolean wrote:
Adacia Calla wrote:
Why would you buy a carrier if you had no idea what to do with it?

Sorry for any confusion, but I didn't buy a carrier. I only trained for one to utilize my current brain mapping. Like I tried to say, I have a bunch of time left prior to my next remap, so I trained for a Thanatos.


Why would you spend 4 years in an NPC corp and then train for a carrier?

Urgg Boolean is my forum alt I'm not even sure he ever got into a shuttle... Maybe, I forget. I'm one of those stealth posters. My main has been exploring and ratting in lo sec for a while now, as swell as dabbling in 0.0. So no, the carrier is not for Urgg...
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#14 - 2012-04-23 05:32:13 UTC
Join a nullsec corp as the only active carrier pilot.

You'll have LOTS of things to do with it.
Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-04-23 07:10:38 UTC
Patient 2428190 wrote:
Join a nullsec corp as the only active carrier pilot.

You'll have LOTS of things to do with it.


one of which is running from corp-mates that just joined to shoot your carrier
Stetson Eagle
Paird Technology
#16 - 2012-04-23 08:17:07 UTC
Incursions are off limits, wormholes are mainly triage based, L5 missions require friendly/empty systems practically.

The best thing for a thanatos to do is spamming anomalies in a gankfit, mine runs ring sanctums at average 36M tick with occasional 40M's - and that's with carrier IV only. At carrier V you'll hit 120M/hour consistently if you do it right: watch fighter pathing and target painters, pre-warp to next sites etc.
Copine Callmeknau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-04-23 14:33:04 UTC
Stetson Eagle wrote:
Incursions are off limits, wormholes are mainly triage based, L5 missions require friendly/empty systems practically.

The best thing for a thanatos to do is spamming anomalies in a gankfit, mine runs ring sanctums at average 36M tick with occasional 40M's - and that's with carrier IV only. At carrier V you'll hit 120M/hour consistently if you do it right: watch fighter pathing and target painters, pre-warp to next sites etc.

wow Roll

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Marsan
#18 - 2012-04-23 16:19:57 UTC
Carriers get used a lot in wspace. In the C5-6 they are used for escalations and RR. I've seen people running c1-3 sites with carriers. (Built in the hole.) That said you should forget solo ratting in a carrier. The only way to do safely is in a large NS alliance deep in their protected space. Ratting in a carrier in wspace doesn't work well as sleepers will shoot your drones/fighters, and sleepers are bloody hard to hit with fighters, heavy drones, and sentries. (You'll need a painter.) Carriers are generally used to to haul things in NS and repair other ships.

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Lord Dravius
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-04-23 16:36:09 UTC
Megos Adriano wrote:
Urgg Boolean wrote:
Adacia Calla wrote:
Why would you buy a carrier if you had no idea what to do with it?

Sorry for any confusion, but I didn't buy a carrier. I only trained for one to utilize my current brain mapping. Like I tried to say, I have a bunch of time left prior to my next remap, so I trained for a Thanatos.


Why would you spend 4 years in an NPC corp and then train for a carrier?

Why would you spend 4 years in an NPC corp?
Heun zero
MAYHEM BOYZ
#20 - 2012-04-23 17:09:20 UTC
I'm surprised that you even had 1 serious answer to this question. I think the eve community has gone soft, often people just replied: if you dont know you're not ready to fly it or something along those lines.

the best advice I can honestly give you though is join a corporation that is 'newb' friendly and has use of a carrier pilot. They can answer both of your questions. Just make sure that you don't get screwed over by a corp that just wants to pop a carrier
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