EVE General Discussion

Highsec will soon be 100%SafeSec so ...

what's up with all these wtz topics lately? they released a patch where you can even jump after warping to zero. why the hell would they change it back?

The amusing thing is that the biggest users of the terrible BM system were the low and null-sec alliances, seemingly the same people now crying about removing WTZ and thus encouraging people to create WT20 BM's. Irony? or idiocy?

Exactly, they want more player (customer) numbers, rather than less numbers with more toon accounts, having more accounts per single customer is a TOO RISKY as they have found out, they have a large amount of accounts, held by too FEW customers and when one customer leaves, they lose a factor of X accounts. It hurts more with player churn, they cannot absorb player churn or leaving unlike WoW can. This is what they are trying to fix, more real individual customers and less multi account customers, more absorption of churn. Less business fragility. Now, they are doing this by making eve more accessible, and flying around being too tedious (along with skilling times etc) is some of the top 5 major hurdles they are removing to new players. I am not saying multi account customers are bad, it is just they are TOO dependant on that right now.

super tedious and it was just to help pirates who are terrible with gate camps

I agree on dividing all empire factions by low sec border zones of two to three systems deep. If there are enough access points to these zones and routes through them, piracy will make travel dangerous, but will not shut it down

And then balance the reduced traveltimes of Wt0 by cutting most warp-speeds. Yeah people will whine a lot, but most frigates don't reach their topspeed now anyway. Want to fight with bigger ships but not spend a lot of time flying?
Fight close to home!

Example: freighter 0.5AU (isk afk anyway), BS+Indy 1AU, BC 2AU, cruisers 3AU, destroyers 4 AU, frigates 5AU, interceptors 6AU.

As for the jumpbridges and JF, and cynos in generals the problem is now that people can simply use them to make easy money as individual players because they are so to cheap to use and maintain. They should only be used for strategic purposes that are worth more to an alliance then the large cost of jumping a fleet through, like protecting an outpost or Tech-moon, or circumventing a blockade with ice for a beleaguered POS on the frontline. A cost-benefit picture that is way out of the league for individual players. Same for cyno's don't use them to blab a frigate with a carrier when you're bored, but save the big toys for whenever there is a big fleet op because then the alliance will pay for the expensive fuel.

Maybe that will lead to capital ships becoming less of something every idividual player has, and more something that a large corporation has a stock of, for alliance operations. Corp-owned capitals... the ideal situation CCP never managed to get working.

Don't cater to the players that are fighting in the north of the map and wants to get back to farm some sanctums in the south a few hours later. Yes it's much less fun for your pilots, but that is the price for make all your neighbors blue and then having to go and fight on the other side of the map. It used to be the case that if an alliance was fighting a few regions over, because the current neighbors were annihilated, everyone went and it was a solid commitment for weeks at a time and it usually ended with just taking over the region instead of moving back. Followed by the good fun of greeting your new neighbors! Now it's barely more of an commitment then a frigate roam.

And the thing is, while mostly null-shenanigans, it does influence the rest of EVE. For example the dronepoo would never have become such a big part of empire supply, if the fuel of JF would have eaten away most of the profits of selling those minerals in empire in the first place. And it would be too expensive for individual pilots to go Titan-hotdrop on small gangs in low-sec. Not to mention they wouldn't because are more likely committed to fighting on their borders with their direct neighbours (instead of the friday-evening trips the other side of the map, hoping to find someone that isn't blue.

Meh, but null-pilots are usually too arrogant or sheep-brained to see that the mechanics they claim to need to keep enjoying the game, are at the same time the hurting the game in a way that its the exactly the cause of their boredom in the first place!

-"Why do you need jumpbridges?
-"So we don't have to waste a whole evening 60 jumps from home when there are no enemies"
-"Why are there no enemies?"
-"Because they just used their jumpbridges to go and farm sanctums safely 60 more jumps further"
-"Should CCP nerf jumpbridge?"
-''STFU, PUBBIE!!! CCP IS NERFING NULL ALL THE TIME!!!

Edit:

I do agree that structure basing on timers poses a few obstacles that do require at least some degree of fast travel in null, yet it's not an argument against increasing fuel-costs. Like I said: corp/alliance objective (pos-bashing), not a 'personal' one, so a good corp/alliance should cough up the cost of the fuel. And besides, the whole point of structure grinding needs to be looked at as well, but that is another matter.

Posting in yet another "I want easier ganks" thread.

It's a veiled complaint that people aren't getting enough pew and they want the game to change to suit their needs.

Great idea. Make 99% of all travel slower, more boring and uninteresting in the interest of making the other 1% of travel present a slightly better pvp opportunity. Sorry, if I want to sit and watch paint dry, I'll re-paint the walls in my house. Travel was so mind-numbingly tedious in this game before wtz I wouldn't travel anywhere without a set of instas. It was not a better game then.

Highsec really needs structure-shooting timer-based blob warfare. Maybe with the new wardec system...