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Bring FALCON for a frigate 3v1...

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BeastlyRage
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-04-22 01:13:34 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
You re-agressed with your buffer nearly bust, fully aware that there was a falcon on the field, and somehow it's the other guys fault you lost?


Are you implying that if I didn't agress I would have lived?
BeastlyRage
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-04-22 01:14:20 UTC
Rara Yariza wrote:
the funniest bit was at the end. You were so busy whining you didn't realise you weren't jammed for ages, probably could of killed that firetail. Lol


Thats 100% true. I didn't expect to get unjammed by a falcon. Probably lacking on caldari jammers.
SMT008
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-04-22 01:20:21 UTC
It's all about point of views.

Let's say they have 3 frigates and a falcon. They can take on pretty much every solo ship around, except maybe ECCMd solo Hyperions or an armor ECCM BS. They want kills. Everytime an hostile jumps in, they are all like "GET HIM GET HIM KILL IT". You just happened not to be a solo ECCMd Hyperion. You were a frigate, and you encountered a bigger force who wasn't there for you to begin with.

So...Yeh, happens a lot.

However, ECM is clearly unbalanced and really could use some changes (Like...I don't know, you're jammed by something, you can't target anything BUT you can still target the ship that's jamming you ?).
SigmaPi
Ambivalent Inc
Coney Island Ski Club
#44 - 2012-04-22 01:20:41 UTC
BeastlyRage wrote:
Oxylan wrote:
i dont blame pirates they got right to use falcon, even tytan if they want..


Thats why we can't have nice things

Oxylan wrote:
I can blame only my self because i dont use anty ecm modules.


Can't ECCM on a frig.


You do realize you woulda been able to jump out if you hadn't stupidly reagressed, right?
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#45 - 2012-04-22 01:22:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobiaz
It seems to me the enemy Firetail was going down, so the Falcon probably saved his ass. So is it the opinion of the 'pro-pvp' people here that the Falcon should have just let his buddy die, just so not to be called 'lame'?

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SigmaPi
Ambivalent Inc
Coney Island Ski Club
#46 - 2012-04-22 01:23:39 UTC
BeastlyRage wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
You re-agressed with your buffer nearly bust, fully aware that there was a falcon on the field, and somehow it's the other guys fault you lost?


Are you implying that if I didn't agress I would have lived?


You died 47 seconds after you were jammed. Woulda been smarter to try and micro your transversal and try to jump then reagress, but that's just me.
BeastlyRage
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-04-22 01:25:58 UTC
SigmaPi wrote:
BeastlyRage wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
You re-agressed with your buffer nearly bust, fully aware that there was a falcon on the field, and somehow it's the other guys fault you lost?


Are you implying that if I didn't agress I would have lived?


You died 47 seconds after you were jammed. Woulda been smarter to try and micro your transversal and try to jump then reagress, but that's just me.


You can Micro transversal against frigs when you are dual webbed. No way I could have lasted a minute so I was better off trying to get that tail.
Darc Kaahar
Space Men
#48 - 2012-04-22 01:50:43 UTC
Bischopt wrote:
I'm gonna have to agree with OP here.

I know it's eve and it's the sandbox and yadda yadda but it's also pretty damn pathetic.
ecm has ruined a lot of good fights and it's even worse when someone brings it when they already have the upper hand even without the ecm.

whatever, carry on.


People like this guy and the OP are the reason I fly Falcons.
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#49 - 2012-04-22 02:13:24 UTC
I have just enough experience in null to now that nothing is fair.

I detest this. ECM is for losers mentality. I have witnessed so many tears in local, calling the Victors, noobs, and losers for using ECM's. The fact they beat you is testiment to your lack of understanding all potential possibilties. Their numbers would have beaten you, yet because one stopped you making a kill. They become noobs. To me they used tools at their disposal, to kill you with minimum loss. Is that nooby? I think not.

You should never expect a fair fight in null or low sec. You were well and truely outsmarted,


o7
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2012-04-22 02:20:18 UTC
ohnoes, somebody brought a M1A1 Abrahms into a knife fight non-shocker!


Roll


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BeastlyRage
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-04-22 02:41:12 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
The fact they beat you is testiment to your lack of understanding all potential possibilties.


If you were to account for all potential possibilities you would never get a fight.
Morddeth
That Hole Over There
#52 - 2012-04-22 02:56:56 UTC
-__-

hey, while i was on your youtube i checked out that pilgrim video you have. there was some impressive fights there...
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#53 - 2012-04-22 03:03:24 UTC
BeastlyRage wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
The fact they beat you is testiment to your lack of understanding all potential possibilties.


If you were to account for all potential possibilities you would never get a fight.



This is true and maybe I should have put the word "basic" somewhere in there. Big smile

Would you have posted this vid, if it was 28 BS's hot dropping you. Or just because you were ECM'd. The video clearly shows, you were, ever slightly miffed at the appearance of the Falcon. I saw nothing unsusual happening in the video that doesn't happen anywhere else in null, or low. Even the nerd rage after being ECM'd.

You have to admit you do not come out of this looking good. Being outsmarted by noobs and losers. Apparently


o7
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#54 - 2012-04-22 03:05:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
I can't help but notice that in that video you seemed a little mad bra?



Yes you were winning.
Yes the other pilots were bad.
Yes.... bad pilots bring Falcons.



A "good pilot" accepts this reality of EVE and moves on.

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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#55 - 2012-04-22 03:54:59 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Yes you were winning.
Yes the other pilots were bad.
Yes.... bad pilots bring Falcons.


Bad (or lacking in your idea of e-honor) pilots aren't the only people with falcons, nor are falcons the only "lame" tactics bad (or lacking in your idea of e-honor) pilots use.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-04-22 03:57:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Patient 2428190 wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Yes you were winning.
Yes the other pilots were bad.
Yes.... bad pilots bring Falcons.


Bad (or lacking in your idea of e-honor) pilots aren't the only people with falcons, nor are falcons the only "lame" tactics bad (or lacking in your idea of e-honor) pilots use.



True, but when I say "bad" I mean that it looked like they had him 3 on 1 (at least) and were still losing their shirts to a single frigate. So it would appear that your idea of E-honor or lack there of, was merely a twitch response to my post, of which, had no mention of E-honor at all. You made it up.



Hmmm... maybe you don't have it all figured after all? Nah... that can't be right can it?

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FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#57 - 2012-04-22 03:58:36 UTC
1:55 of your vid. Nice racism there champ. Really honorable action.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#58 - 2012-04-22 07:07:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
BeastlyRage wrote:
Rath Kelbore wrote:
B)you would probably do it too


I have never ever engaged something (especially a 3v1) and shouted on comms "BRING THE FALCON."



Come to think of it, neither have I....But then, I've often been the one flying the Falcon (Gods, I just adore ECM!)Twisted

E: Near end of the video, o.O? Racism really isn't cool, bru. Just thought you should know Ugh

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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#59 - 2012-04-22 08:47:52 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Hmmm... maybe you don't have it all figured after all? Nah... that can't be right can it?


Consider it an educated guess that anybody who throws around the terms "good players and bad players" has an internal set of e-honor that all the bad players violate every waking second and all the good players (themselves) have to overcome them while being paragons of virtue.

I'd be right way more times than I'm wrong. I'm sure the OP has no ethical qualms anytime he blows up somebody while outnumbering them say 7 to 1. He's not going to post a terrible video calling himself bad blobber.
iBlob TheBuilder
Myname Replacement Brokerage LLC
#60 - 2012-04-22 09:06:29 UTC
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