EVE General Discussion

This thread is too big and long. Instead, I do a quick post-by, posting an idea that got rolling in my head when I read the first page a few days ago. Comments are welcome, but will likely not be read. :p

The resources in the game should be effectively unlimited... however, different skills should be required to "unlock" deeper deposits (much the way it is in the real world). For instance, you could take your mining skill to 5, and get all the usual benefits. However, the minerals players could get with this skill would be finite. But in addition to the usual benefits, mining 5 (along with maybe another skill?) would unlock the ability to create a skillbook: Tech 2 Mining.

The player that generated it could train it... but it would take an amount of time equivalent to learning a level six skill (not that such a thing exists... just extrapolate). However, in the hands of a player with no mining skills (new character?), they could learn Tech 2 mining 1 in the usual speed of the first level of a skill. They would have access to a whole new supply of minerals, unavailable to those who have only tech 1 mining.

This would simulate the turnover of generations, as the skills of old characters became obsolete, and young characters implement new methods to get at deeper/more difficult to extract deposits. New characters would, after a time allowing "early adopters" to have an advantage, be automatically given the new skill, rather than the old one... giving new players a small advantage.

Come to think of it, I'd love to play an EVElike game with a slow rolling CIV or MOOlike tech tree that gradually unfolded over the course of years.

I think it would be welcome to at least get CCP to play around with resource distribution after looking at stats every six months or so (during each expansion). Would truly contribute to an ever-changing universe.

I approve this self-necromancy

EVE isn't perfect either, stop trying to troll.

It's good to have input from vets too as it can help to put things into perspective better. Resource scarcity would provide more justifiable reasons for PVP but it would also contribute to a more dynamic galaxy. When you can easily predict the outcome, the system tilts towards grinding and botting as opposed to opportunity and player choice.

Why people don't PvP in EVE?

4 hrs to assemble a fleet, get everyone in an appropriate ship, fleeted, in the right wing and squad for bonus, in the right system.

bew, bew, bi-bip. Boom, you are dead, see you next week.

Shorter version, it isnt fun.

Perhaps a more effective resource scarcity would be to allow players to make claims, and there by deny others access. We have some of this with low sec POCOs, moons and POSes, but this does not extend to where the majority of players live, high sec.

Suppose that a corp could anchor a claim to a mining belt, and only members of that corp could get full use of it, any others mining there would get say 25% of normal yield. To remove a claim, one corp would war dec another and blow up their anchored claim marker(s). Allow POCOs in high sec as well - Even though this would cause something of a crash in PI prices, I suspect Dust is going to take care of that in the long run.

Could limit the number of claims/POCOs per corp by a skill on the CEO to something reasonable. Send a bill once a month to corps who have claims, something like one million ISK per claim.

Time is the only truly limited resource in Eve. Reducing the productivity of time and using that to drive conflict could provide for the sense of scarcity the OP has in mind.

You either did not understand the thread or have no idea what you are talking about. Items are 100% driven by the value players are willing to pay for them. Some items are seeded by npc's at a fixed price, but we are not discussing that at all. We are discussing bounties and ore distrubution.

No, that is about bringing a blob. Though we fill up fleets one at a time and send them out.

With mains in the staging system with a stack of drakes, for example, you can pretty quickly send out a couple of drake fleets. The problem with all undocking at once is you'll get TiDied, similar with jumping through gates too quickly.

Secret option #3

Resources are quickly depleted in one area, and the game regenerates them in their original amounts somewhere else