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Wukulo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-04-20 15:28:39 UTC
Kira Kasumi wrote:
Is it just me or does having a Hulkageddon in the current market seem very illogical?
on one hand players are complaning about the rising prices of ships and moduels because of the increason minerals prices.

but at the same time they are going out of their way to try and limite the supply of minerals even further buy killing the very ppl that could held drive the price back down where paying for pvp becomes resonable again.


How do you figure this is illogical?

-Raise price of hulks
-Raise price of the stuff it takes to make hulks, thus raising the price of hulks further
-Profit

Posted on main because I'm not a coward like the rest of you.
Baljos Arnjak
Dark Praetorian Order
#42 - 2012-04-20 15:34:13 UTC
Kira Kasumi wrote:
Hulkageddon seems illogical


Live long and prosper. Vo
Mugged Yougot
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-04-20 15:39:49 UTC
You kind of missed the point. To sum it up: EVE is all about economics. Having people mining in high-sec renders economics from sovereignty less valuable, thus impacting PVP (which is what EVE is about, really..)
Rekon X
Doomheim
#44 - 2012-04-20 15:51:33 UTC
Wukulo wrote:
Kira Kasumi wrote:
Is it just me or does having a Hulkageddon in the current market seem very illogical?
on one hand players are complaning about the rising prices of ships and moduels because of the increason minerals prices.

but at the same time they are going out of their way to try and limite the supply of minerals even further buy killing the very ppl that could held drive the price back down where paying for pvp becomes resonable again.


How do you figure this is illogical?

-Raise price of hulks
-Raise price of the stuff it takes to make hulks, thus raising the price of hulks further
-Profit


No, it raises prices, but not profit. Just takes more to make them.

Oh, yea, you mean in profit for ccp cause they sell more plex.

I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-04-20 16:00:49 UTC
It teaches people to htfu.

'Nuff said.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
J Kunjeh
#46 - 2012-04-20 16:25:50 UTC
Nothing about the lulz needs to be logical.

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 
J Kunjeh
#47 - 2012-04-20 16:26:51 UTC
Oh, and playing Eve is totally illogical...think of all the real life useful things you could be doing instead. Totally illogic.

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#48 - 2012-04-20 16:49:56 UTC
People don't value miners for the same reason we don't value rats. They're not rare enough.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#49 - 2012-04-21 13:49:05 UTC
Urgg Boolean wrote:

Bottom line from my perspective is that Hulkageddon may have had a point at its incepetion, but now it just adds bounties for killing ORE ships and related industrials when the players are doing this for free+kicks+giggles year-round anyway. Oh, I'm sure it adds ePeen for the "winners" too.

Whatever floatz yur boatz boyz. I have far more fun things to do than gank the wimpiest ships in the game using cookie cutter builds/strategies.



Sounds like you don't understand that having a contest with prizes is fun.

But I always forget that PVE nerds are all NO FUN ALLOWED.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-04-21 13:57:39 UTC
Helicity Boson wrote:
Urgg Boolean wrote:

Bottom line from my perspective is that Hulkageddon may have had a point at its incepetion, but now it just adds bounties for killing ORE ships and related industrials when the players are doing this for free+kicks+giggles year-round anyway. Oh, I'm sure it adds ePeen for the "winners" too.

Whatever floatz yur boatz boyz. I have far more fun things to do than gank the wimpiest ships in the game using cookie cutter builds/strategies.



Sounds like you don't understand that having a contest with prizes is fun.

But I always forget that PVE nerds are all NO FUN ALLOWED.



And you are all about Fun ofcourse Roll

R.S.I2014
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#51 - 2012-04-21 14:02:25 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:


And you are all about Fun ofcourse Roll


I'm 100% all about fun. In particular my fun, and the fun of those I socialize with.

Specifically, I care absolutely nothing about your fun, anyone that I do not know personally is just a boardpiece in a game.

Anyone that claims differently is deluding themselves.

Do you feel bad when you undercut someone on the market? No? Good. You just PVPed someone in a non-consensual fashion, just like I do when I destroy a ship.

Those who like to claim some moral high ground about space pixels are just giving themselves a mental reach-around.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-04-21 14:04:25 UTC
Helicity Boson wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:


And you are all about Fun ofcourse Roll


I'm 100% all about fun. In particular my fun, and the fun of those I socialize with.

Specifically, I care absolutely nothing about your fun, anyone that I do not know personally is just a boardpiece in a game.

Anyone that claims differently is deluding themselves.

Do you feel bad when you undercut someone on the market? No? Good. You just PVPed someone in a non-consensual fashion, just like I do when I destroy a ship.

Those who like to claim some moral high ground about space pixels are just giving themselves a mental reach-around.



congratz on YOUR type of fun

R.S.I2014
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#53 - 2012-04-21 14:05:01 UTC
Why is HG corp practically DEAD? Can we revive it again? I seem to be the only main active char in it.
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#54 - 2012-04-21 14:06:46 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:


congratz on YOUR type of fun


Don't like non-consensual PVP? Play a different game.

There is absolutely, 100% certainly, no way at all in which you can claim you've not done something in EVE to the detriment of another. It's how the game works in EVERY aspect, from mining to nullsec wars.

The sooner you realize the truth of that, the better it will be for you.

Don't whine, seize the opportunity, GET RICH off my event. That's how you win at EVE.
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#55 - 2012-04-21 14:07:27 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Why is HG corp practically DEAD? Can we revive it again? I seem to be the only main active char in it.


I'm not reactivating the account that has orphanage on it, but you should feel absolutely free to run it if you want, I left you with director right?
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#56 - 2012-04-21 14:08:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Helicity Boson wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Why is HG corp practically DEAD? Can we revive it again? I seem to be the only main active char in it.


I'm not reactivating the account that has orphanage on it, but you should feel absolutely free to run it if you want, I left you with director right?


Leme check lol


Nope... big red X's on all Roles. ping CCP or a GM to get them to set it.
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#57 - 2012-04-21 14:15:17 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Helicity Boson wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Why is HG corp practically DEAD? Can we revive it again? I seem to be the only main active char in it.


I'm not reactivating the account that has orphanage on it, but you should feel absolutely free to run it if you want, I left you with director right?


Leme check lol


Nope... big red X's on all Roles. ping CCP or a GM to get them to set it.


cool, let me know if they need my OK or anything, I'll happily give it :)
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#58 - 2012-04-21 14:17:08 UTC
Helicity Boson wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Helicity Boson wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Why is HG corp practically DEAD? Can we revive it again? I seem to be the only main active char in it.


I'm not reactivating the account that has orphanage on it, but you should feel absolutely free to run it if you want, I left you with director right?


Leme check lol


Nope... big red X's on all Roles. ping CCP or a GM to get them to set it.


cool, let me know if they need my OK or anything, I'll happily give it :)



Thanks, petition opened.
Whambot
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-04-21 14:50:01 UTC
Helicity Boson wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:


And you are all about Fun ofcourse Roll


I'm 100% all about fun. In particular my fun, and the fun of those I socialize with.

Specifically, I care absolutely nothing about your fun, anyone that I do not know personally is just a boardpiece in a game.

Anyone that claims differently is deluding themselves.

Do you feel bad when you undercut someone on the market? No? Good. You just PVPed someone in a non-consensual fashion, just like I do when I destroy a ship.

Those who like to claim some moral high ground about space pixels are just giving themselves a mental reach-around.


The imagined pixel superiority of elitist low secc PvPers who think doing anything else in a sandbox game is n00b and for carebears it a much better point of view then?
Its like democrats vs republicans both sides are filled with evil douchbags, but neither side see themselves that way.
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#60 - 2012-04-21 14:57:16 UTC
Whambot wrote:
Helicity Boson wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:


And you are all about Fun ofcourse Roll


I'm 100% all about fun. In particular my fun, and the fun of those I socialize with.

Specifically, I care absolutely nothing about your fun, anyone that I do not know personally is just a boardpiece in a game.

Anyone that claims differently is deluding themselves.

Do you feel bad when you undercut someone on the market? No? Good. You just PVPed someone in a non-consensual fashion, just like I do when I destroy a ship.

Those who like to claim some moral high ground about space pixels are just giving themselves a mental reach-around.


The imagined pixel superiority of elitist low secc PvPers who think doing anything else in a sandbox game is n00b and for carebears it a much better point of view then?
Its like democrats vs republicans both sides are filled with evil douchbags, but neither side see themselves that way.


You're dumb and you didn't understand what I wrote, but that is fine.

I don't think carebearing is dumb or bad at all, without them, who would build my ships and weapons?

I do however feel that many carebears have a stick the size of the statue of liberty up their backsides and incorrectly assume an imaginary moral highground, based on the fact they cannot recognize the fact that everything THEY do is ALSO non-consensual pvp.

This is a subtlety of EVE that seems to elude most of them.