My EVE

No you are not lying when you play poker. I mean you can lie and say "I have a bad hand stay in" when you have a great hand but that is just silly and not how most poker is played. Its not a game of betraying any trust at all.

I bolded the part where you are 100% completely massively and really, sadly wrong.

Being a good guy isn't just not doing anything bad today. You actually have to do good stuff that means something. When everyone is "good" because they have no choice to be bad, how can we say anyone is good? It becomes meaningless as describing someone as "he's definitely hurglegurblish" or "what an unusually asdgfgy person". If you don't have to do anything to be a good guy, just not doing anything evil suffices, can we say that Pol Pot was a good guy while he was eating breakfast? Was Ghengis Khan virtuous while he was scratching his ass?

Why is it the smartest people in the world always agree with me? Funny that,no?

The OP "seems" to make sense if one applies a mass-media acquired understanding of the elements he/she chooses to address. The big HOWEVER to all this is, fortunately (or no), nobody's exitting reality to boot this game. Everyone is as ensconced in this time/space frame as they were before they clicked that icon. Furthermore, if anyone believes they ARE in another reality (virtual, or no) when they enter the game, there's a diagnosis for that as well.

Absolving themselves from the consequences of their acts because people choose to imagine that nothing "real" is happening anyway is merely a form of self-delusion, and anyone who feels that's a necessary step to take before engaging in immoral or unethical behavior at least has the virtue of realizing it is a step from civil behavior into uncivil behavior. Quite literally, it is a step from cerebral cortex mitigated behavior into reptilian stem behavior, or a giant leap into the animalistic past.

The OP seems to confuse psychopathy with anti-social personality disorder. Though the two are related in many ways, the psychopathy is expressed in many different disorders. ASPD is expressed in many different ways. It used to be called sociopathy, and was associated strictly with violent criminals that had no remorse for their activities. However, the science has come to accept this behavior isn't limited to serial killers. It's found in the wide spectrum of societal positions as defined by activities, from the board room to the construction site if you will...and yes, in EVE, as well.

The truest marker of this behavior is does the activity engaged in generate activity in the frontal lobe of the brain, or can it be completed within the reptilian stem: The frontal lobe being where the "rights and wrongs" of behavior are mititgated. The reptilian stem being bereft of such considerations. The existence of remorse or feelings of "guilt" are the generally accepted markers.

One might pretend to attempt to imitate a psychopath, or ASPD, but it's difficult to be assured that being capable of such behavior on any level, under any pretense isn't symptomatic of possessing these disorders. Having a group of peers insist this is all mistaken thinking, or having the individual in question insisting it was all just pretense, or virtual, is inconsequential at best. No one possessing any of this array of disorders is likely to admit this as fact, either through ignorance, pure unawareness, or flat denial to further the aims these disorders demand.

ASPD is believed to prevail within Western society (from 60 upwards to 80% depending on what study you read) so it's not only highly unlikely, but it's rather naive as well to believe EVE doesn't have its share on a percentage basis. As the prevailing behavior exhibited by EVE players - or even the behavior celebrated by a large portion of EVE players, is precisely the type of behavior diagnosed as part of this spectrum of disorders, it would be be unusual (or odd) if ASPD were not present in a density reflective of the general population.

Psychopathy, on the other hand, has a smaller spectrum insofar as is understood at present. However, it wouldn't be surprising if EVE had its fair share of those, as well. Be it ASPD or Psychopathy, it's futile to point out and castigate people for this behavior, as they are incapable of realizing or understanding the point you'd be trying to make. One must either accept its presence and live with it, or move on in hopes of finding somewhere they aren't present. Given the pervasive presence of ASPD especially, it's highly unlikely such a place exists, and if you think you've found one, you may be deluding yourself....or wishful thinking.

Your take on the second world war is not even worth going into, I don't know which film you watched.

Lol

Good does not become meaningless just because there is no bad present, because doing bad always remains a possibility if one desired to go that route.

A person can do good and bad deeds in the same day just not at the same time but they would not be seen as being good because of the bad deeds (although by some they might be perceived as being good if they did not know of the bad deeds) .

Your stupid eating breakfast and scratching ones arse comments are not even worthy of anymore comment.

You don't have to be recognised as being good to be good, it's your choices/actions when situations arise that defines if you are good or not.



Note: Second attempt at this reply, but the forum was hungry, so although not as good as the first one it'll do.

I like the way you say you completely disagree with me and then, in your closing sentence, restate my point.

If you don't think that Poker is fundamentally based on deception then all I can say is pull up a chair and let me deal you a hand, pardner