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My way late interview

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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#1 - 2012-04-20 11:23:41 UTC
So I wasn't able to make the interviews during the election but I was able to an interview recently.

I wanted to share to let folks that wonder what I might have been like in the interviews.

Issler Interview

Hope it gives you some sense of what I'm about.

Issler
Caimeka
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-04-20 12:36:36 UTC
Wow you are like concentrated pubbie.
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
#3 - 2012-04-20 13:13:49 UTC
Everyone wants to hear what "CSM space pants" has to say right ?
Gloomy Gus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#4 - 2012-04-20 14:13:18 UTC
I was really looking forward to hearing your thoughts Issler, you have a keen edge to your thought processes that really cuts through all the BS and tells it like it is.

"DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini "Gloomy Gus is literally a pocket" - Krixtal Icefluxor (former EVE Online player)

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#5 - 2012-04-20 21:00:17 UTC
Gloomy Gus wrote:
I was really looking forward to hearing your thoughts Issler, you have a keen edge to your thought processes that really cuts through all the BS and tells it like it is.

Clean-cut BS. Yeah, I thought so.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-04-20 23:47:04 UTC
today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#7 - 2012-04-21 00:09:29 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts


Can't be much more than ban NPC (alts) from the forums.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-04-21 00:32:41 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts


Can't be much more than ban NPC (alts) from the forums.

naw, Issler agreed to consider my proposall to ban NPC corps entirely in her campaign thread
and now she's part of the CSM
: ))))))))))))))))

edit: woah eighty minutes

what did i get myself into aaaaaaa
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#9 - 2012-04-21 02:54:48 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Killer Gandry wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts


Can't be much more than ban NPC (alts) from the forums.

naw, Issler agreed to consider my proposall to ban NPC corps entirely in her campaign thread
and now she's part of the CSM
: ))))))))))))))))

edit: woah eighty minutes

what did i get myself into aaaaaaa


I still hope we can find a way to change the fundamentally change NPC corps. Sorry about the length of the interview, that is a lot of me talking!

Issler
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#10 - 2012-04-21 17:40:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
I enjoyed that.

It's much easier to follow what someone is about in an interview, uninterrupted by trolls and asshats, than trying to make sense out of a forum thread pre election.

I think, Issler, that if this had aired before voting , you would have ended up with a larger percentage of the vote than you did.

Mr Epeen Cool
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#11 - 2012-04-24 06:38:54 UTC
Issler, why did you sound like a dude?

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Kelvan Hemanseh
Hole Exploitation Inc.
#12 - 2012-04-25 23:54:00 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Killer Gandry wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts


Can't be much more than ban NPC (alts) from the forums.

naw, Issler agreed to consider my proposall to ban NPC corps entirely in her campaign thread
and now she's part of the CSM
: ))))))))))))))))

edit: woah eighty minutes

what did i get myself into aaaaaaa


I still hope we can find a way to change the fundamentally change NPC corps. Sorry about the length of the interview, that is a lot of me talking!

Issler


For those of us that are curious how exactly would you change NPC corps for the better?
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#13 - 2012-04-26 00:43:45 UTC
Kelvan Hemanseh wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Killer Gandry wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
today's 4/20 so once i get home from work and celebrate i'll listen to this and give you my unfiltered thoghts


Can't be much more than ban NPC (alts) from the forums.

naw, Issler agreed to consider my proposall to ban NPC corps entirely in her campaign thread
and now she's part of the CSM
: ))))))))))))))))

edit: woah eighty minutes

what did i get myself into aaaaaaa


I still hope we can find a way to change the fundamentally change NPC corps. Sorry about the length of the interview, that is a lot of me talking!

Issler


For those of us that are curious how exactly would you change NPC corps for the better?


That is a good question. They need to remain in some form to let the newer players get the bearings but they can't remain a way to avoid major parts of the "risk" elements of Eve. I don't have a detailed plan in mind at the moment but a strong belief in those two principles.

I owe everyone more on that and promise to organize some "brainstorming" on what changes we need to be improve the NPC corp role in Eve.

Issler
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#14 - 2012-04-26 01:51:16 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:

That is a good question. They need to remain in some form to let the newer players get the bearings but they can't remain a way to avoid major parts of the "risk" elements of Eve. I don't have a detailed plan in mind at the moment but a strong belief in those two principles.

I owe everyone more on that and promise to organize some "brainstorming" on what changes we need to be improve the NPC corp role in Eve.

Issler


So basicly you are saying you don't like the lay out of the sandbox and want it adjusted more to your liking.

If you really were some sort of high sec representative then you should start scratching your ear and first figure out why so many people want to remain in a NP corporation.
Focussing on changes without doing research as why people do what they do show me that your reasoning and logic are far too limited.

So show me a good study as why people want to remain in NPC corporations and take it from there instead of doing wild shots in the dark without knowing the underlying problems.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#15 - 2012-04-26 02:22:31 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:

That is a good question. They need to remain in some form to let the newer players get the bearings but they can't remain a way to avoid major parts of the "risk" elements of Eve. I don't have a detailed plan in mind at the moment but a strong belief in those two principles.

I owe everyone more on that and promise to organize some "brainstorming" on what changes we need to be improve the NPC corp role in Eve.

Issler


So basicly you are saying you don't like the lay out of the sandbox and want it adjusted more to your liking.

If you really were some sort of high sec representative then you should start scratching your ear and first figure out why so many people want to remain in a NP corporation.
Focussing on changes without doing research as why people do what they do show me that your reasoning and logic are far too limited.

So show me a good study as why people want to remain in NPC corporations and take it from there instead of doing wild shots in the dark without knowing the underlying problems.


I definitely understand the underlying problem. I think you need to think about the core concept of Eve. Risk vs. Reward. A strong case can be made that NPC corps allow this balance to be skewed. I support the idea of the solo player as well. I didn't say eliminate NPC corps but they are one of many elements of Eve long overdue for review and revamp.

I love it when people challenge other people in Eve to provide an extensive study to support their position when they know that no such data can be provided to support either side of the argument.

What you also fail to realize is I have no intention of presenting ANYTHING to CCP as a CSM without serious vetting with the player base. I am here to represent the players that elected me, not to randomly spout "Eve accord to Issler" manifestos to CCP.

So my suggestion to you is to feel free to join in the conversations about the future of NPC corps in Eve when I start those conversations instead of assuming you already know in detail what I meant with those pretty basic concepts I shared in answer to a question I was asked.

So a question back to you, do you believe in the concept of risk vs. reward being key to Eve? If you do we can start conversations about places in Eve where maybe that is broken. If you don't see that as key I doubt we could ever agree.

Issler


Tech3ZH
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-04-27 10:27:13 UTC
Hmm...interesting interview. Worth the listen.
I hope they get the other interviews they mentioned lined up...sounds good...
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-04-27 15:57:15 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:


What you also fail to realize is I have no intention of presenting ANYTHING to CCP as a CSM without serious vetting with the player base. I am here to represent the players that elected me, not to randomly spout "Eve accord to Issler" manifestos to CCP.




You finally figured this one out. Now if you could tell all the misinformed people who voted for you this is the case that would be appreciated. A whole bunch of people somehow think that the CSM is akin to joining the board of game designers rather than representing us, the players, at the stakeholders table.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#18 - 2012-04-27 18:47:17 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:


What you also fail to realize is I have no intention of presenting ANYTHING to CCP as a CSM without serious vetting with the player base. I am here to represent the players that elected me, not to randomly spout "Eve accord to Issler" manifestos to CCP.




You finally figured this one out. Now if you could tell all the misinformed people who voted for you this is the case that would be appreciated. A whole bunch of people somehow think that the CSM is akin to joining the board of game designers rather than representing us, the players, at the stakeholders table.


If you read anything I said while I ran you would see I've said this is exactly how I intended to act as a CSM representative. In fact I've said this every time I've run for CSM. So this is not news, in fact it is probably a big part of how I got elected.

A variation of what I say whenever asked, I am not the "Idea Faerie of Eve". I have ideas for sure and they will get thrown into the pot along with all the others, then we, the players will sort them out and that is the "stew of wonder" I'll bring into the CSM process.

Issler
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#19 - 2012-04-27 19:48:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Killer Gandry
Issler Dainze wrote:

So a question back to you, do you believe in the concept of risk vs. reward being key to Eve? If you do we can start conversations about places in Eve where maybe that is broken. If you don't see that as key I doubt we could ever agree.


I firmly agree that the concept of risk versus reward is one of the key cornerstones of EVE.
However there is a lot more that needs taking care of then people who wish to remain in NPC corporations.

Issler Dainze wrote:

I love it when people challenge other people in Eve to provide an extensive study to support their position when they know that no such data can be provided to support either side of the argument.


You shoot off your mouth about NPC people yet you then say I am the one who challenges?
You are the one who wanted a foot on the CSM pedestal.
That means you also work for information you want to talk about.

If you are someone who wants to represent then do it on facts and not on personal assumptions.
Get off of your lazy bumm and do what you are in the CSM for. Get data from CCP aswel. If you are too lazy for getting data to build on from then you are too lazy to represent in my personal opinion.


Key issue's why people remain in NPC corporations are various:

Arrow They don't have the time or the will to put in as much work and time as a lot of corporations ask of them.

Arrow They come from games where the key structure of a player driven group is less profound.

Arrow They don't want to feel like one of the masses or are afraid of being cannon fodder to the higher ups.

Arrow They have communications issue's of some kind and therefor prefer to remain outside a corporation.

Arrow They don't want to be pulled into the drama EVE often trails off to when being in a Corporation.

Arrow They don't tend to play well with others and prefer to remain on their own.

Arrow They see EVE as a game where social interaction isn't required.

And so on. There is a reason almost exclusively for anyone who stays in a NPC corp.
So saying you know the underlying issue is a tad of a bg grasp.

The main thing Nicolo is peefed about is that people use alt NPC's to post, his main concern is to silence them up. If you check his postings over the last your a big percentage of it is only about that.
He's a very single minded individual and as such I personally think he has far greater issues than alts in NPC corporations which post on the forums.

It would be a grand idea if there actually were a survey to get an indication as why people want to remain in NPC corporations.
That would serve far more because then we would have actual data instead of random assumptions.


Now about the risk vs reward.

There is also a lot of reward with minimal or no risk in this game.
Do you intend to make work of that too?
To increase the risk exponentially to the reward?
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-04-27 20:07:52 UTC
My objections to NPC corp forum alts and NPC corps in general are two different things, where bad gameplay and bad posting happen to converge.

Not one of the scenarios you presented justify the presence of a collective corp that makes wardecs optional and delivers ironclad CONCORD protection.

All of them are better served by a system where NPC corps were removed and instead pilots are "Freelancers", effectively one-man corps with zero overhead and able to be wardecced individually and unbound by POS and bounty tax restrictions.

If I was in a highsec mining corp like Issler Dainze I, more then anyone, would question why it was fair I had to compete with people who mindlessly flooded the market since they've made basic EVE concepts like 'engaging in PvP for resources' as competively disadvantageous to resort to thanks to decshield exploits and NPC corps.

Anyways, I also liked some of Issler's pet ideas like 'artifact'-based manufacturing, where an industrialist had like some unique or super-rare antimatter reactor schematic could give a marginal boost to the ship's effectiveness - then brand it with their corp logo.
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