EVE General Discussion

Well, you can look at their demands; notice that they can already do exactly what they demand that they should be able to do, but that they refuse to do so; and judge them as being very very silly people because of this sharp disconnect between their demands and the reality of the situation.

The judging has nothing to do with their being miners — it has to do with their absolute, unrelenting, and unreasonable refusal to make use of what's available to them to solve their own problems.

Read the post above you. Yes, it's possible to tank a hulk. Sure some people choose to not do it. And I'm fine with them losing their ships to superior firepower. But the T1 barges, can't be tanked to even a minimal degree. It takes literally next to nothing to blow away a T1 barge. To me, that shows that there is something wrong with the equation. Mining barges, are not pvp vessels, and cannot be fitted to tank as such, yet they are on the receiving end of alot of 'pvp'. They need their tanks buffed.

not a t2 but at least not meta 0

http://hulkageddon4.machine9.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5232

what do I get ?


edit:

and proven wrong :)

http://hulkageddon4.machine9.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4594

My MONEY please :)

You're absolutely right: for every PLEX that the OP purchases with ISK, someone else has paid for it with real money. I get that. But it seems to me that, by the time OP comes around to purchase PLEX, the money is already in CCP's pocket, and you said it yourself: there are others besides the OP that purchase PLEX. If he doesn't buy it, someone else will. But I could be mistaken; after all, I DON'T have an "e-degree from University of Phoenix" (or any other degree / formal training with regards to finances or economy). I'm just musing out loud here..

What irked me is that the OP seems to want to have the game adapted to his play preference, rather than adapting his play preference to the reality of the game. I personally love the fact that I can get blown to pieces, even in high-sec; it's never a pleasant situation, but it forces me to adapt and try to outwit those who would blow me to pieces. It's a part of what makes it exciting, that gives it that "rush", so to speak.

By threatening to financially "punish" CPP, the OP comes off (to me, anyways) like those customers you see in stores / restaurants: those who throw tantrums and threaten to take their business away if they don't get their way.

While every account is ultimately paid for by money, whether PLEX-ed or sub-ed, I still believe that him not renewing his 4 alts will not cause great woe to CCP's finances - at least, not as much as he seems to believe.

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EDIT: Lharanai, ISK sent you sleuthy person

I lol'd.

That.... and also how would an attack on another player, whether a suicide attack or not, NOT be considered Player vs. Player (PVP)?

It's not called Player Vs. Another Forewarned and Similarly Equipped Player (PVAFASEP)..

Just don't mix game and RL rules, and you will do just fine. I really can't understand people who compare some severe crime/crisis to some thing which peeps likes to do for fun in games like EVE.

I fully deserve to lose it and yet if you dont mine places where people ARE it works just as well as a tank - better even from what ive heard

i have been thinking all day about this subject. i have come to some b asic conclusions;

1. ban hi sec ganking. period. let the only legitimate way to conduct battle be via the wardec.

2.disband alliances. remove alliances from the game completely.

3. make corporations the only legitimate entity in the game.

4. only corps can sieze and hold territory.

5. limit the size of corporations ie 1500 players each max.

6. corps would be allowed to control the maximum of 5-10 solar systems.

i think the game has too many imbalances in it. there is too much power concentrated in fewer and fewer hands and this monopoly must be broken. i agree with the essential pov of pvp that combat is the life blood that drives the interest of most players. players like me who avoid combat are the rarity. by ending alliance control of space and opening it up to corporations i think you set the stage for pvp activity on a much greater scale for smaller groups. it no longer would require blobs of titans to have fun. small corps could have as much chance at owning space as anyone else. i think there would be more fun to be had. hi sec is for those who dont like combat. they have as much right in the game as those who like pvp activity. they also have a legitimate claim for safety without being attacked in their normal course of business. each has their role in eve and each has a right to their space to conduct their business as they see fit. thats why pvp belongs in low and null sec and peace belongs to hi sec except in wardecs which i think are legitimate.