EVE General Discussion

It probably won't. Maybe some will give their keys away. Other will try it for a minute and move on, like me. But only because I can't play FPS for too long. Some will ignore it completely.

I signed up for the Dust 515 Beta testing having an active account from the starting date of 6-03-2003 mite help me but I guess not lol, God i hope it is as fun as it looks! Ive been in beta for a few weeks now, it is fun but it need some work but it is a beta

I would have to agree with the collective sentiment here. I'm not one to complain but I have been registered for the MPT since December 26 and have been a paying player since July of 2007. I have to admit, I feel like i've been left hanging, and from what i am seeing I'm not the only one who feels this way. I thought the theme of fanfest this year was about putting the player base first?

ITT: WAAAAAA I'M AN EVE PLAYER WAAAAAAA THAT SHOULD GIVE ME SPECIAL PRIVILIGES WAAAAAAAA


Grow the hell up, the lot of you.

Very well said sir!


Some people are whining about "should get special treatment" but that's not the point here.

The point is that you CCP care so much about what you produce, as we the players care so much about how you shape our sandbox (Last year more than proved that as talked about greatly at FF).

Having invaluable feedback and real testing can have a huge positive effect on a development, game or otherwise, letting Sony add a mass hoard of anyone is not going to help the cause.

I'm sure there were politics involved, but it could have been handled much better. Why could the MPT sign-ups and FF people not be included in the 5000? If Sony did not care who got in.

Also, the NDA explicitly allows sharing what is already known. Since this is the same build that was displayed at fan fest, a vast majority of the videos so far feature legal content. Not saying I don't get the spirit, but perhaps this is overreaction.

wut?

closed beta startet allready?

http://www.dust514.com/en/redeem/

says soon..

Noobs! MMO companies give bloggers beta keys as a legal maneuver to shut them up until the beta is done...and official release has occurred.

Once a blogger registers or uses his beta key, for all practical purposes he/she cannot say anything about the game that is not official CCP press release, no matter where he got the info or it is just his opinion. Quite often it legally ties up any soapbox organization they work for as well unless special "white room" measures are made to prove they didn't talk to anyone else in their organization. Most even semi-professional bloggers know that.

And its no surprise NDA is not highly read. Its two most common purposes are obvious public knowledge: protect new technology until patented and protect Public Relations status of game by not talking about any problems technical or personal. (Closed beta is rare occasion where you may get to talk direct to certain programmers with big egos and without social skills). Some NDA go as far as to prohibit publication of beta problems and evolutions forever to keep reputations pristine (we never did stupid stuff and have no asshats working here).

The one thing occasionally shows up that people may be ignorant about and which not every NDA carries is: Clauses that say

*** BETA Players are not to discuss game play issues with other BETA players.***

Why? Its like jury duty. The MMO is trying to prevent group think and influential players from altering your own first impressions of game in order to get valid statistics on problems and liked features.

Too lazy to read DUST514 NDA to see if that is there. But I would not be surprised if this was in fact the big issue CCP is scolding people about. CCP should probably just say - except they probably got too clever in NDA wording and would violate and invalidate their own NDA if they publicly got that specific.

[The most silly restrictive NDAs prohibit discussing or publishing the NDA itself in public (the actual NDA has a preliminary NDA about its own terms). Fortunately it doesn't seem CCP is quite that insanely obsessive.]

Sigh. Maybe you could ..
* Read the NDA before you make a Wall of Text about it
* Take a few minutes to read numerous statements by CCP that this is still a closed beta
* Read the original post by Navigator where he says (yet again) Beta testers may discuss all aspects of the Dust Beta on their forum.
* spend a few more minutes checking web sites where people are saying things like "I dont know why I got a beta key - I never heard of DUST before" and "Here, have my private trial key" -> http://www.ps3trophies.com/forums/general-ps3-discussion/15487-dust-514-privite-beta.html

You seem to be assuming that I haven't. Believe me, I have. And believe me, I want to get an email inviting me to play the beta as much as you.

Unlike you, I haven't translated my enthusiasm into a sense of entitlement and bratty impatience. The Beta is a testing tool, and an important one that's there to iron out kinks in the game before it's released. It's not a zarking reward scheme.

Astonishingly, one of the most important demographics that CCP will be wanting to get feedback on DUST from are people who aren't already emotionally invested in EVE Online, and who haven't been waiting patiently for DUST for a couple of years. The people who can give it a reasonably fair and unbiased opinion rather than fangasming all over it, in other words. Why? Because that's who DUST is aimed at and intended for.

Being a paying EVE customer is ALREADY giving you privileged access in the form of Mordu's Private Trials and Fanfest beta keys. It's just not giving you immediate, right-this-second privileged access which is what you and so many other people seem to want.

Cultivate some patience. you've already waited a couple of years - what's another month going to harm you?