Jita Park Speakers Corner

Actually what he is searching for is a victory condition for the defenders.

Also a way to encourage the aggressors to actually log in on the accounts fighting the war for more than the opportunistic ambush.

Is that too much to ask?

While I don't agree with yet another structure shoot, I have to say that he's identified some of the problems rather well.

To answer both of you, yes it is too much to ask. The reason being in game such as EVE which is a Sandbox MMORPG players should primarily define their own war objectives and find their own conclusions or resolutions to such an event as a War.

The only thing other than players that should determine objectives and such is game lore. However, let me be very clear on this, it isn't lore made up after the fact to justify mechanics, it's the lore that forms the framework of the virtual fantasy spaceship world in which we play.

What both of you are looking for as well as the author of that awful article is to make Wars in EVE another Themepark ride. To have a clear beginning and clear ending point, and clear objectives and limitations defined by game mechanics not players. A cost of entry. You're laying down tracks that all must follow, creating stale predictable gameplay that makes you feel safe and in control. That's not what EVE is supposed to be about, it certainly isn't why I'm interested in this game, if ti were I would be playing WoW or w/e that Starwars MMO is called.

I actually agree that undock incentives are needed. For both aggressor and aggressed.

If the agressed party does not fight the agressor, their POSes should be automatically transferred to the aggressor, and the cost of the wardec should be compensated from their corp wallet.

Same would go for whichever party loses the war, they have to pay the costs of the winner and give up their in-space assets.

Defenders have the right to extend the war for free, for an equal time they have been decced.

Aggressors get a global suspect flag in hisec, as they have paid CONCORD to look elsewhere.

This is Sparta.

Ok. As an agressor, you would naturally need to prove your right of might by reinforcing the POSes.

How's that?

So, my sphincter is feeling very loose today and would like to please you with some more half-ingested ideas:

Being able to wage war in high security space would need first paying CONCORD to look away. Make this sum reasonably high and fixed, let's say 500mil. Cops won't come after you now, but they will inform the local Navy of the wardecced corp, who will protect the interest of their citizens against the aggressor.

You can of course bribe them too. The starting bid would depend on the size of your target corp, smaller for small corps, and very large for large corps. This would encourage larger corp sizes, which I personally think is better for both individual hisec players and the game in general. After paying the initial bribe, the Navy would roll a dice. Your chances to succeed would depend on your standing towards the Navy, as well as the target's faction standings.

This roll would have three possible results:

1) go ahead, we didn't like that corp anyway
2) over our dead bodies, thanks for the ISK, and here look what happened to your corps faction standings, scumbag
3) hmm, maybe, give sum more and we'll think about it -> reroll or leave, and we keep this just between us mkay

The wardecced corp could of course bribe the local Navy, with much higher chances. And CONCORD, too

This is Sparta, for the wardeccers too.