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CCP's Revenge: A fair warning to GANKERS!
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Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#21 - 2012-04-20 15:57:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Nirnias Stirrum
Show me on the doll where the bad ganker touched you.

Ren Oren wrote:

1) Make it so outlaw pods get instant locked by anyone

Yeh lets change game mechanics just cause you lost a hulk.
Ren Oren wrote:

2) Make outlaw pods light up like cynos would on scanners so that its effortless to find them (Bounties might actually matter again)

Yeh, cause obviously you dont know how to use probes or read a name on your scanner.
Ren Oren wrote:

3) Just like neutral RRs, make the Orca that brought the ships get criminally flagged too

Yeh again lets change game mechanics cause someone else might be able to benefit from you fail fitting your hulk.
Ren Oren wrote:

4) Have a 10-15 second delay for outlaws to dock at stations (Plenty of time to get a lock)

Apposed to the already 15 second delay they have for any session change? Might want to learn more about the game.
Ren Oren wrote:

5)Keep you from setting up clones in HS

Awww wouldnt want you to feel unsafe in high sec space.


And appearently you can only quote 5 things in a post so heres the other ones:

6) Concord should be able to kill -10 pods since this shows the player gives no damns
Fit a sebo and a point and do it yourself, lazy git.
7) Instead of a random "You are a outlaw you aren't allowed message" it would say
"Player X has a (Insert bounty number here) isk bounty all citizens are required to kill him" (That would actually make bounties matter again
So basicly you dont want to right click and show info cause again your lazy?
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#22 - 2012-04-20 16:20:34 UTC
M5 Tuttle wrote:
What's this? An NPC corp player made a thread about goons? This is new and exciting.


What's this? A really terrible Goon renter alliance white knighting for thier landlords? This is new and exciting.

It still won't get a discount on next months rent.

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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#23 - 2012-04-20 16:26:34 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Jack Parr wrote:
Why not just have the pods self-destruct sequence start automatically as soon as a -10 player enters his pod in high sec? Problem solved.

I think a much better solution for -10 players is to bill them for a year and serve bans from game.


Only if they do the same every time a miner whines about not being able to tank his hulk and mine efficiently, for twice as much and twice as long.

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#24 - 2012-04-20 16:48:28 UTC
Ren Oren wrote:

1) Make it so outlaw pods get instant locked by anyone
2) Make outlaw pods light up like cynos would on scanners so that its effortless to find them (Bounties might actually matter again)
3) Just like neutral RRs, make the Orca that brought the ships get criminally flagged too
4) Have a 10-15 second delay for outlaws to dock at stations (Plenty of time to get a lock)
5)Keep you from setting up clones in HS
6) Concord should be able to kill -10 pods since this shows the player gives no damns
7) Instead of a random "You are a outlaw you aren't allowed message" it would say
"Player X has a (Insert bounty number here) isk bounty all citizens are required to kill him" (That would actually make bounties matter again

Someone is angry at their hulk loss.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#25 - 2012-04-20 16:51:59 UTC
Ren Oren wrote:
Its more addressing the ganking issue as a whole
What issues?
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-04-20 16:55:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
anyone can kill -10s in pods without CONCORD intervention AND get a bounty from CONCORD equal to the bounty (if any) in the player in the pod

Ive never lost a Hulk, my main doesnt even tank them, its just stupid the gankers are more protected by CONCORD than the miners. If anyone in the Miner's fleet attacks the ganker first GUESS WHAT HAPPENS

lol

Serge Bastana wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Jack Parr wrote:
Why not just have the pods self-destruct sequence start automatically as soon as a -10 player enters his pod in high sec? Problem solved.

I think a much better solution for -10 players is to bill them for a year and serve bans from game.


Only if they do the same every time a miner whines about not being able to tank his hulk and mine efficiently, for twice as much and twice as long.



ok I agree
I dont whine about the tank on the hulk anyways, I never use it

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#27 - 2012-04-20 16:59:25 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
its just stupid the gankers are more protected by CONCORD than the miners.
Good thing that they aren't, then.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-04-20 17:01:46 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
its just stupid the gankers are more protected by CONCORD than the miners.
Good thing that they aren't, then.


what game are you playing?

ah its Tippia, given that youll NEVER EVER be swayed from your point, Ill bow out. I have better things than to argue with a full teacup

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2012-04-20 17:06:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
what game are you playing?
EVE online, where gankers are offered the same protection as everyone else unless they go below -5 sec status in their pursuit of that activity, at which point they're afforded less.

“Equal or less” does not equate to “more”. What you're saying is completely contrary to reality.

The only way for your claim to be true would be if the miners were -5s themselves, in which case they are gankers, so they're protected less than everyone else per the above rules.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#30 - 2012-04-20 17:17:21 UTC
Ren Oren wrote:
Ganker Tears, best tears https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=89242&find=unread

Mad cause you can't shoot people who can't defend themselves? Just go to lowsec tough guys

Sounds like someone lost a spaceship. I have a feeling you will loose more.

Fail tear troll 0/10

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madsamo
Outer Haven Inc
#31 - 2012-04-20 17:18:06 UTC
This would just break eve. Srsly tho if you have this much of a problem against gankers use a battlehulk or somethingRoll
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#32 - 2012-04-20 17:26:51 UTC
Killing an outlaw pod requires that YOU take a huge sec status hit, which means your plan is terribad.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#33 - 2012-04-20 17:34:00 UTC
Nice RAEG!!!! face you got going on there. Very nice.. very nice!

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-04-20 17:58:29 UTC
BuckStrider wrote:
M5 Tuttle wrote:
What's this? An NPC corp player made a thread about goons? This is new and exciting.


What's this? A really terrible Goon renter alliance white knighting for thier landlords? This is new and exciting.

It still won't get a discount on next months rent.


I really did actually laugh at this. Do people really believe the cfc have renters and pets?

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2012-04-20 18:02:19 UTC
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#36 - 2012-04-20 18:07:04 UTC
You left out "Ganker pays the insurance payout for the victim's ship".

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Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#37 - 2012-04-20 18:09:35 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
BuckStrider wrote:
M5 Tuttle wrote:
What's this? An NPC corp player made a thread about goons? This is new and exciting.


What's this? A really terrible Goon renter alliance white knighting for thier landlords? This is new and exciting.

It still won't get a discount on next months rent.


I really did actually laugh at this. Do people really believe the cfc have renters and pets?



Yes, yes they do. They can't conceive of the fact that we don't actually pay rent to anyone.

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Brisco County
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-04-20 18:31:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Brisco County
There is already a counter to suicide ganking. It's called fitting a tank. I'm looking at a hulk fit right now that has 25k EHP. A Tornado with all skills @ 5 and T2 guns does about 5k volley. Nobody is going to bring out 5 tornados to gank one hulk

Pro-tip: The majority of your hulk's hit points are in the hull. Use one of these things: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Damage_Control_I

The hulk's strength is in it's shield resistances and CPU. It's weakness is grid. Fit shield resistance mods to increase that strength. Use shield extender rigs to overcome the fact that you don't have the grid to fit medium shield extender modules

[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Co-Processor II
Damage Control II

Invulnerability Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Invulnerability Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II
Modulated Strip Miner II
Modulated Strip Miner II

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

27k EHP. The run of the mill tornado gank isn't going to take you down unless there is more than 2 of them, which isn't likely to happen unless you've been designated a special target. Honestly, if my ship scanning alt saw a fit like this, I would pass it by.
Ren Oren
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-04-20 19:58:24 UTC
Well since this post CCP has put in a 15 minute timer which means after a gank, you have to find something else to do for 15 minutes

Also no I don't have a Hulk, nor do mine, but its funny how even on "leet pvp" toons you always seen Mining 4 or some kind of indy skill which mean most people were mining at least a little when they started out, pretty sure you wouldn't appreciate getting curb stomped just starting out especially to guys that didn't even want to declare war first.

Ganking is probably the biggest in game activity that causes people to ragequit/unsub then the same people that were doing all the ganking will be the SAME ONES that say "EVE is dying!"Roll
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-04-20 20:13:15 UTC
I think ganking keeps people who can't handle EVE out. That is a good thing and should be encouraged.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
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