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"A cool kid."

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Fernando Viaggiatore
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-20 04:31:46 UTC
I was chatting with some people in Eve and this conversation came up. I asked if it would be cool to put this in my bio but it would not fit.

ATTENTION EVE DEVS PLEASE LET US HAVE MORE THAN 1000 CHARACTERS FOR OUR BIO... :(

Anyway... since it wont fit there, I'd love to share this with all of you.

(Eddieguin Renalard = E.R. and Trek Starkiller = T.S.)

E.R. > Hell a friends little girl in the first grade was told to color a picture of a horse, so she did. She also drew a knight in shiny armor riding the horse. They told her she did it wrong and made her do it over. She wasn't allowed to "add stuff"

T.S. > Wow. Eddie, that's just horrible. If that was my kid, I'd have a good long talk with the admistration on how NOT to stifle creativity.

E.R. > Her mother did, she was told "we are teaching the test and she needs to learn to follow the instructions and thats it"

E.R. > she changed schools. New one is the same way though. Apparently beating the creativity our of our children and then teaching the test is the way to educate now

Me > Its not about educating your children, its about indoctrinating them.

Me > Teaching them that if they do not submit to what they are supposed to do that they will suffer.

T.S. > ya. make everyone the same. nice going.

Me > Its not about helping people learn how to learn and become able, powerful, creative, and intelligent people who will help society while enriching themselves and their loved ones like it should be.

E.R. > Yep. I feel bad for this little girl, cuz her parents really encourage her to be her own person. Love her to death. Her mother gets phone calls every week though. Last week she got a call cuz she called her teacher a Cylon.

Me > That little girl is awesome, hopefully her spirit wont be broken.

Mathieu Patrouette > so say we all

E.R. > She also argued with her teacher that ladybugs were not lovely and sweet, they were the battle tank killing machine of the aphid world. Got a call there to.

Me > People like to put down homeschooler parents, but many corporate headhunters prefer homeschooled students, as they usually go onto college and graduate with honors and are awesome candidates.

T.S. > OMG! Just cause they are called Ladies, doesn't make it so. They are killers.

E.R. > Bugs cower in fear at the site of one. :)

Me > she's awesome

T.S. > They tank better than a procurer

Mr Stove > anything tanks better than a procurer

Mathieu Patrouette > lol

Mr Stove > cept maybe a velator

E.R. > haha yea she is. Her mother got yelled at cuz the girl likes to read the Harry Potter books and the Star Wars books with her mom before bed. The teacher argued that she was to young to understand them

Me > eddie may i put what you said about that little girl in my bio

E.R. > Lol sure

E.R. > I'll be sure to let Autumn know a quote of her antics is running around the internet somewhere. She'll be happy. She got in time out once for singing "Hide yo kids hide yo wife" in class last week

E.R. > she really is a neat kid though. Just tought her how to google information since she isn't getting it from school. She loves doing that

E.R. > one of my best friends kids

T.S. > some grade one kid who is obviously smarter than her teacher.

E.R. > she's hilarious

E.R. > yea she's 6 and puts most of the other kids in her class to shame. She tells her parents she can't stand being there most days because the other kids just aren't all that interesting lol

Me > i dont mean to inject any religon into this discussion

Me > but i'm going to add autumn to my prayers that kid has a strong will

Me > and that kind of person, if they dont get broken, grow up to be heroes and change the world

E.R. > I'm sure she appreciates the encouragement

E.R. > Her parents do a great job though letting her be her and keep her interactive and being creative thankfully :)

=)
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-04-20 13:22:12 UTC
Cool stuff! Go Autumn! Big smile
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-04-20 13:52:38 UTC
now that's a smart kid.Cool

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2012-04-20 14:10:17 UTC
Perhaps there is hope after all.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#5 - 2012-04-20 14:43:53 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
When I tell my first-grade son to put his shoes away, I don't want him to "creatively" store them on the ceiling with duct tape. I want him to put them in his closet where they go. Don't assume that just because a little girl was told that failing to follow instructions is a bad thing, that the schools are stifling creativity. MOST teachers will gladly encourage such activities when they can, but sometimes kids need to learn to do exactly what's expected.

Schools are judged by standardized tests because overzealous voters and parents pressed congress into "holding schools accountable" and trying to judge merit by student performance. They've been told that if students DON'T perform well on the st standardized tests (which have no tolerance for creativity), then their jobs are on the line. How can they not "teach to the test"?

The indictment here ultimately falls on the policies enacted by elected officials and the people who vote for and influence them.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#6 - 2012-04-20 14:57:48 UTC
The schools are so messed up that, once we have Revolution 2 I will be ready to go to the next ratification and duel EVERYBODY if I have to in order to make sure Constitution 2.0 has a Separation Between School and State clause that will be adhered to with the same (secular of course) fanaticism as the Separation Between Church and State.

Funny though. When I mention the need to separate school and state, the people who don't like that start acting like the people who don't like the separation between church and state, yet one calls the other "fanatics".

Go figure.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Whitehound
#7 - 2012-04-20 16:37:53 UTC
If this is not worth a "like" then what is?!

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#8 - 2012-04-20 17:23:18 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
When I tell my first-grade son to put his shoes away, I don't want him to "creatively" store them on the ceiling with duct tape. I want him to put them in his closet where they go. Don't assume that just because a little girl was told that failing to follow instructions is a bad thing, that the schools are stifling creativity. MOST teachers will gladly encourage such activities when they can, but sometimes kids need to learn to do exactly what's expected.

Schools are judged by standardized tests because overzealous voters and parents pressed congress into "holding schools accountable" and trying to judge merit by student performance. They've been told that if students DON'T perform well on the st standardized tests (which have no tolerance for creativity), then their jobs are on the line. How can they not "teach to the test"?

The indictment here ultimately falls on the policies enacted by elected officials and the people who vote for and influence them.



This I quite agree with. There is quite a size-able difference between being creative and following directions, and both can be achieved at the same time.

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Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-04-20 21:23:59 UTC
+1

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leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-04-21 05:52:04 UTC
I really know that feeling. and unfortunately because of her being like that, she's probably going to have a very rough time growing up. maybe a little better than I did since she's a girl, but sticking out like that is inviting others to come try and hammer you back into place.
and tech wise, I'm familiar with that too. I started using computers when I was 2, I was using yahoo when I was 6 (this was the earliest we could get dial-up where I lived), and I built my first computer (with some help from my dad) when I was 7. by 8, I was familiar with what the different parts of a computer did, and was getting to know what the different numbers meant and how they affected each other. now I'm 20, and I'm capable of designing, setting up, configuring, and managing an enterprise size network using windows, linux, unix, or sun.
Liam Mirren
#11 - 2012-04-21 09:05:56 UTC
leviticus ander wrote:
I really know that feeling. and unfortunately because of her being like that, she's probably going to have a very rough time growing up. maybe a little better than I did since she's a girl, but sticking out like that is inviting others to come try and hammer you back into place.


She won't "fit in" and will be unable or unwilling to adapt, the most important bit though is that her parents don't do the normal hysterical "omg, must fit in" but rather nurture it.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.

Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-04-21 15:15:36 UTC
Liam Mirren wrote:
leviticus ander wrote:
I really know that feeling. and unfortunately because of her being like that, she's probably going to have a very rough time growing up. maybe a little better than I did since she's a girl, but sticking out like that is inviting others to come try and hammer you back into place.


She won't "fit in" and will be unable or unwilling to adapt, the most important bit though is that her parents don't do the normal hysterical "omg, must fit in" but rather nurture it.

while I can understand it, is it really that bad being different? sometimes I get sick and tired of seeing kids behaving like the same, dressing the same way and do crap the same way. just because it isn't "the norm" it doesn't mean it's bad either.

then again, we're humans.





****, I sometimes hate being a humanUgh

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Liam Mirren
#13 - 2012-04-21 16:30:45 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
while I can understand it, is it really that bad being different? sometimes I get sick and tired of seeing kids behaving like the same, dressing the same way and do crap the same way. just because it isn't "the norm" it doesn't mean it's bad either.

then again, we're humans.


****, I sometimes hate being a humanUgh



People who are unable or unwilling to adapt to society are the sane ones, conformists and people who blend in are the fcked up ones.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.

leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-04-21 18:19:05 UTC
Grimpak wrote:

while I can understand it, is it really that bad being different? sometimes I get sick and tired of seeing kids behaving like the same, dressing the same way and do crap the same way. just because it isn't "the norm" it doesn't mean it's bad either.

then again, we're humans.





****, I sometimes hate being a humanUgh

no, it's not bad, but so many people feel it is bad. but also, sticking out like that also kind of occludes you from most social circles, meaning you have few people to back you up in anything. and people note this and take advantage of it.