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Hulkageddon seems illogical
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Kira Kasumi
Prison Squad
#1 - 2012-04-20 10:53:39 UTC
Is it just me or does having a Hulkageddon in the current market seem very illogical?
on one hand players are complaning about the rising prices of ships and moduels because of the increason minerals prices.

but at the same time they are going out of their way to try and limite the supply of minerals even further buy killing the very ppl that could held drive the price back down where paying for pvp becomes resonable again.
Riyal
invidious Squid
#2 - 2012-04-20 10:57:09 UTC
Because fun is all about logic?

In hindsight my post should have had more psssshhhh
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#3 - 2012-04-20 10:57:50 UTC
Not when you see it as some kind of market manipulation everyone can cash in on!

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Darth A30NZ
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#4 - 2012-04-20 10:58:01 UTC
Kira Kasumi wrote:
Is it just me or does having a Hulkageddon in the current market seem very illogical?
on one hand players are complaning about the rising prices of ships and moduels because of the increason minerals prices.

but at the same time they are going out of their way to try and limite the supply of minerals even further buy killing the very ppl that could held drive the price back down where paying for pvp becomes resonable again.


This just in...

"Eve is Illogical"

Moar on this at eleven.

New Eden Spotlight full episode list. 

http://www.youtube.com/user/NewEdenSpotlight/videos
Kira Kasumi
Prison Squad
#5 - 2012-04-20 10:59:38 UTC
guess i just dont see it as that fun to kill stuff without any risk, if that's what i wanted i would play modern warfare or some other mindless nonrisk pvp game.

but yeah i dont really care im only profiting on it. i just dont understand the appeal for the pilots doing it.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-20 11:00:54 UTC
Kira Kasumi wrote:
Is it just me or does having a Hulkageddon in the current market seem very illogical?
on one hand players are complaning about the rising prices of ships and moduels because of the increason minerals prices.

but at the same time they are going out of their way to try and limite the supply of minerals even further buy killing the very ppl that could held drive the price back down where paying for pvp becomes resonable again.


You're missing the point and like everything else in eve, I doubt anyone will tell you how\why
Darth A30NZ
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#7 - 2012-04-20 11:02:02 UTC
Kira Kasumi wrote:
guess i just dont see it as that fun to kill stuff without any risk, if that's what i wanted i would play modern warfare or some other mindless nonrisk pvp game.

but yeah i dont really care im only profiting on it. i just dont understand the appeal for the pilots doing it.


This just in...

Pilots in New Eden do random things that are illogical.

Moar on this at eleven.

if you can't wait till 11 you can always watch New Eden Spotlight for random capsular violence anytime.

New Eden Spotlight full episode list. 

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xanaxred
Extended Industries
#8 - 2012-04-20 11:02:57 UTC
Hulkageddon seems unorganized....
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-04-20 11:03:32 UTC
No it isn't illogical. Not everyone who participates in it complains about the prices. The event itself also doesn't affect the market all that much, so the prices are what they are regardless of hulkageddon. There are simply bigger factors, that determine the price levels and compared to them hulkageddon is just a minor bump in the road. The event is also fun for the players taking part in it, which is the entire point of playing a game, so no matter what your views on the rising prices are it makes perfect sense to take part.
BellaDonna Nyghtshade
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-04-20 11:03:43 UTC
Kira Kasumi wrote:
Is it just me or does having a Hulkageddon in the current market seem very illogical?
on one hand players are complaning about the rising prices of ships and moduels because of the increason minerals prices.

but at the same time they are going out of their way to try and limite the supply of minerals even further buy killing the very ppl that could held drive the price back down where paying for pvp becomes resonable again.



You attempt to assign logic to a group and process that don't understand the meaning of the word.

The people behind this have no interest in the market; they buy their ships/etc with real life monies in the form of Plex and GTC.

They only have a single focus; to ruin the game for as many as possible.

Their highest achievement is the rage-quit. They consider this the pinnacle of success.

These are no secrets. They have openly bragged as much, and continue to do so at every opportunity.

Once they finally manage to kill this game, they, like the invaders portrayed in the movie Independence Day, will simply move on to the next game that catches their attention, rinse and repeat.

There is no logic in this, so stop looking for it.

The best thing you *CAN* do is to ignore them.

Refuse to play the game their way. The greatest feature of EvE is that nobody can really dictate your gameplay; that only happens if you fall for the ruses and traps.

Just ignore them.


Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#11 - 2012-04-20 11:07:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Corrupted
Kira Kasumi wrote:
guess i just dont see it as that fun to kill stuff without any risk, if that's what i wanted i would play modern warfare or some other mindless nonrisk pvp game.

but yeah i dont really care im only profiting on it. i just dont understand the appeal for the pilots doing it.

Oh, well, if you don't understand the appeal behind it, then it's obviously not appealing. I guess you cleared up some things for us, that we weren't entirely sure about.

Alright guys, Hulkageddon is canceled. Go home to your children/wives/child-wives/realdolls.

BellaDonna Nyghtshade wrote:
The people behind this have no interest in the market; they buy their ships/etc with real life monies in the form of Plex and GTC.

Actually, we buy our stuff with the ISK we make from killing, ransoming, and extorting other players out of their hard-earned income. We spend ISK to buy PLEXes, not the other way around. The ones who spend real-life cash on in-game money are usually the bears who put all their eggs in one basket.

You were surprisingly spot-on about everything else you said though, so I give you props for that.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
gfldex
#12 - 2012-04-20 11:07:43 UTC
Kira Kasumi wrote:
but yeah i dont really care im only profiting on it. i just dont understand the appeal for the pilots doing it.


You imply that those who gank hulks in highsec don't profit from it. Since all you need is a catalyst and the boost for player ship salvage, you will turn a profit on every gank. Every now and then you hit a jackpot.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#13 - 2012-04-20 11:08:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Nirnias Stirrum
The above poster is a numpty, i know plenty of people who take part in hulkageddon and also kill hulks themselves for the sole reason of market manipulation and to drive up the costs for both Hulks and minerals..

Those of us with enough smarts to be buying up Hulk BPC's making them and selling them are they ones that are winning at eve.

We made about 800misk from killing hulks one week.. Our ships in total cost less than 100misk.. So dunno where your coming out with the not profiteering from it.
Sandra Vellocet
Extended Industries
#14 - 2012-04-20 11:09:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Sandra Vellocet
xanaxred wrote:
Hulkageddon seems unorganized....



Yes, why cant this so called "event" be better organized. I'm sick of sifting through #tweetfleet looking for updates on Hulkageddon. I hate twitter!
Alexandra Alt
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-04-20 11:15:15 UTC
gfldex wrote:
Kira Kasumi wrote:
but yeah i dont really care im only profiting on it. i just dont understand the appeal for the pilots doing it.


You imply that those who gank hulks in highsec don't profit from it. Since all you need is a catalyst and the boost for player ship salvage, you will turn a profit on every gank. Every now and then you hit a jackpot.


Jackpot would be if it dropped, you had a glimpse of a possible small valued module, and ffs, 45mil is hardly a jackpot...
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#16 - 2012-04-20 11:16:53 UTC
It's very logical. I am making money off it before it even started.

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knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-04-20 11:17:47 UTC
FYI Goons never stated they'd kill the game, they'd kill your game.

Kira Kasumi wrote:
Is it just me or does having a Hulkageddon in the current market seem very illogical?
on one hand players are complaning about the rising prices of ships and moduels because of the increason minerals prices.

but at the same time they are going out of their way to try and limite the supply of minerals even further buy killing the very ppl that could held drive the price back down where paying for pvp becomes resonable again.


Its logical if you have made a not so wild assumption that the mineral price increase is down because people are buying up the minerals and then selling them back to the market at ever inflated price. Currently all those minerals are sitting in Jita being trickled back into the market to make massive profits, with huge stashes saved up to sell now the prices is massively increased.

Hulkageddon is about fun but also about making a massive profit of people through deliberate market manipulation mixed with a steady drop on mineral supplies.

Best thing to do right now is get a mining barge or invest.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2012-04-20 11:20:28 UTC
BellaDonna Nyghtshade wrote:
Kira Kasumi wrote:
Is it just me or does having a Hulkageddon in the current market seem very illogical?
on one hand players are complaning about the rising prices of ships and moduels because of the increason minerals prices.

but at the same time they are going out of their way to try and limite the supply of minerals even further buy killing the very ppl that could held drive the price back down where paying for pvp becomes resonable again.



You attempt to assign logic to a group and process that don't understand the meaning of the word.

The people behind this have no interest in the market; they buy their ships/etc with real life monies in the form of Plex and GTC.

They only have a single focus; to ruin the game for as many as possible.

Their highest achievement is the rage-quit. They consider this the pinnacle of success.

These are no secrets. They have openly bragged as much, and continue to do so at every opportunity.

Once they finally manage to kill this game, they, like the invaders portrayed in the movie Independence Day, will simply move on to the next game that catches their attention, rinse and repeat.

There is no logic in this, so stop looking for it.

The best thing you *CAN* do is to ignore them.

Refuse to play the game their way. The greatest feature of EvE is that nobody can really dictate your gameplay; that only happens if you fall for the ruses and traps.

Just ignore them.




You know what the WORST thing about them is?

They make wild inaccurate and self-serving generalisations. All of them! All the time!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#19 - 2012-04-20 11:20:35 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:
Best thing to do right now is get a mining barge or invest.

It's probably too late for the latter, to be honest.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#20 - 2012-04-20 11:21:03 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:
FYI Goons never stated they'd kill the game, they'd kill your game.

Kira Kasumi wrote:
Is it just me or does having a Hulkageddon in the current market seem very illogical?
on one hand players are complaning about the rising prices of ships and moduels because of the increason minerals prices.

but at the same time they are going out of their way to try and limite the supply of minerals even further buy killing the very ppl that could held drive the price back down where paying for pvp becomes resonable again.


Its logical if you have made a not so wild assumption that the mineral price increase is down because people are buying up the minerals and then selling them back to the market at ever inflated price. Currently all those minerals are sitting in Jita being trickled back into the market to make massive profits, with huge stashes saved up to sell now the prices is massively increased.

Hulkageddon is about fun but also about making a massive profit of people through deliberate market manipulation mixed with a steady drop on mineral supplies.

Best thing to do right now is get a mining barge or invest.


^^ This guy gets it!
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