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To cross train, or not to cross train!
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Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-04-19 02:26:15 UTC
Thank you shoogie, that was the advice i was looking for.

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Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-04-20 09:37:22 UTC
I didn't start crosstraining until I was 30m SP.

I had been focusing on Gallente exclusively, and PvE, so I got a hell of a lot of skills in armor tanking, drones and such.

The best advice I can offer is: when in doubt, train generic skills that benefit ANY ship you want to fly.

Skills like Evasive maneuvering, Drone interfacing, Sharpshooter, Signature analysis, Acceleration control, Energy Systems operation...they make you BETTER at EVERYTHING.

In the end you would like to crosstrain, as no race has all the answers. I wanted to try Bombers for fun, and put a couple million SP into missiles (all relevant skills to IV, and low rank support skills to V). Then discovered that the Nemesis was a piece of thrash, and well, the Hound was 7 days away. So I trained Minnie Frigate V.

If you train enough generalist skills, crosstraining becomes considerably easier.

I had all Gunnery support skills to V (except Trajectory analysis) so when I decided I liked the Hurricane much better than the Brutix, it was only a matter of a couple of weeks to shield skills and medium T2 autocannons.

It is my objective to be able to fly all subcapitals effectively, and I think I'm not that far away from that goal. Two or three years, and then I'll be unable to decide what to do with my skill queue. Everything I want, I'll have it at V or IV.
Sunviking
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-04-20 11:16:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Sunviking
I am Caldari and my character is a little over 2 years old now, and I only recently started to cross-train Gallente.

I had about 42million skillpoints before I even touched Gallente Frigate or Gallente Cruiser, and the only reason I trained those up was because of the coming Battlecruiser skillbook change.

I trained for Tech2 Blasters at the same time as I did Railguns (after Christmas), but that was more because I wanted to fit Blasters to my Caldari gunboats.

My advice to you would be: it depends on what your goal is for your character over the long-term. If you are PvP-combat oriented then Yes, it does make sense doing at least a small amount of cross-training. A small amount of wise cross-training can open up a huge number of ships to you.

But you need to priortise the races where you have cross-over with your main race's weaponry. For example, I have decided to train Gallente because both they and Caldari have a huge number of Hybrid turret ships. That way I maximise the return on my cross-training. I may also decide to cross-train into Amarr, not because of the Lasers and the Sansha ships, but more because my Caldari missile skills mean I can use the Khanid Tech2 missile boats to great effect.

I would also say, Don't bother to cross-train until you at least have all the 'Core Competency - Standard' certificates.
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-04-20 15:48:45 UTC
Digital Messiah wrote:
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
personally I would recommend getting fitting/support skills maxed out first. They affect all races. then max out your chosen weapons and ships. then start cross training.

Being able to fly every ship in game does you no good if you can not fly any of them effectively. support skills are a must to decently fit any ship. Get your support skills up including the weapon support skills for what ever you like using the most. get these up before even moving into your chosen races battleship. A well fit BC with good support skills can easily take down a poorly fit battleship with bad support skills.


You didn't read my OP did you What?

I have all rank 1's to level 5, rank 2's to level 4, and I can fly a sleipnir, and can use tech 2 large auto's/arties. The plan I am about to start is going to finish my support skills to all level 5 with level 4 ew skills is only 6 months long.


Why are you training advanced spaceship command?
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-04-20 17:15:39 UTC
Riedle wrote:
Digital Messiah wrote:
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
personally I would recommend getting fitting/support skills maxed out first. They affect all races. then max out your chosen weapons and ships. then start cross training.

Being able to fly every ship in game does you no good if you can not fly any of them effectively. support skills are a must to decently fit any ship. Get your support skills up including the weapon support skills for what ever you like using the most. get these up before even moving into your chosen races battleship. A well fit BC with good support skills can easily take down a poorly fit battleship with bad support skills.


You didn't read my OP did you What?

I have all rank 1's to level 5, rank 2's to level 4, and I can fly a sleipnir, and can use tech 2 large auto's/arties. The plan I am about to start is going to finish my support skills to all level 5 with level 4 ew skills is only 6 months long.


Why are you training advanced spaceship command?

I want to be able to fly a freighter. Told my corporation I would do it to help transport goods.

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