EVE General Discussion

OMG, I laughed so hard when I saw this. Try again, as I've said before, the sand in Eve is more like kitty litter.

I think the biggest reason that Eve does not have the numbers that WoW and other games of that caliber have is because there is no point to Eve. There is no established endgame (ships are not endgame). All humans work off of a reward system. If there are no real rewards to be had, except for self-set goals, then there is no reason to become invested in it.

Ultimately though, those who love Eve will love it, those who don't will not.

It's not really a factor. When you play group PvP games you can have 20+ people each tasked doing different stuff or focus on 1 target or whatever. Someone else higher in the command chain will give orders which you will follow while still doing your microing.

I doubt it. While DUST will be an entrance into CCP's wonderful intellectual property for plenty of people, I doubt that it will be enough to convince people to bear gaming mechanics that they find naturally not appealing

I have lots of friends and relatives that have heard of EvE from me. Only ONE of them ever made a trial account, none of them ever subscribed

Because the sad truth is that while I get an enormous hard on from planning skills, trading margins, angular and transversal velocities, devising fits, checking how much grid I have after setting up another extractor, calculating tracking speeds and listening to the effing Jukebox (yes, really), most of my friends would sooner shoot themselves than playing this

They will, no doubt, be attracted by DUST. If it looks enough like Call of Duty, that is. Exposing my friends to a market analysis in Jita would probably give them a seizure. Foam in mouth and all

They would not understand what is it so exciting about little poligons and color tags, apparently stationary, shooting tiny beams at each other while screaming through TS.

And, honestly, I have no patience left to try and explain it to anyone else.

I have accepted that EvE is not for everybody, but at the same time, if you TRULY enjoy EvE, everything else is pretty lame in comparison

I've played other MMORPGs and I do own a gaming console. I've been playing videogames since I bought a Sony MSX computer in 1983 and I typed my own games in BASIC from magazines

And only EvE has ever made my heart race. Only in EvE I've TRULY earned things, and only in EvE I've truly LOST stuff.

It's fun. None understands me except other players, but 300.000 sounds like quite enough people not to get bored. There's certainly no lack of targets to shoot, and no shortage of clever people to make and sell the stuff I need.

I like you, guys. I would like to shoot down every single one of you with the stuff you make for me.

You know oddly enough I did start playing EVE after I received a massive concussion and a broken nose... After the subsequent surgery to repair my face I was doped up on percosets... EVE was such a wonderful game in those fleeting and oddly trippy moments.

My first Toon was created early 2005; and it was substantialy harder to learn the game back then. I never left.

I feel like an addict chasing that high everyday I play.

An opinion cant "be wrong" but it can "suck".

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North American Lineage is gone making Eve the 7th largest MMO.

EVE is great, and you can feel the loss and all that stuff. But it is not an adrenaline pump or whatever. Even in the middle of a fleet fight, everything is so slow paced than it is hardly a heart break game.

Indeed, I use this game as a relief from my SC2 training, which is really heartbreaking and adrenaline pumping, trying to keep in macro with the rival, micromanage your troops and fend off multiprong attacks while runbying the enemy third base. But I don't wat eve to be a fast paced game. I like it like it is.

It doesn't have to be fast paced to be exciting. I've tried Call of Duty: MW3 online and it was indeed fast...but hardly exciting.

Now there, being at a gate, waiting for something to jump, having to take them down before their mates arrive...action wise there's not much movement unless you're the Inty pilot and have a close camera angle, but all that you're risking makes it adrenaline-pumping.

Not only that: EvE offers a form of e-peen boosting/shrinking unknown to other MMORPGS: killmails.

Whatever ****ing mistakes you make, your comedy fits, everything, is recorded forever if you fall in battle.

In WoW, you see a dude in front of the auction house dressed as some kind of nordic God, with axes bigger than my car, and you don't know. You don't know if he's a competent PvPer, a good player. He could be killed a thousand times because of his own stupidity, and a minute later that would not matter at all.

But your killboard stats follow you forever. Another little proof that your choices DO matter and have real, tangible and permanent consequences. Not everybody is ready for that kind of harsh treatment in an environment (MMORPGS) where constant gratification must be granted (or so it is perceived) at given intervals in order to keep the playerbase hooked.

Could you imagine, in WoW, what would happen if other players could check the complete and fully detailed dossier of all the battlegrounds you lost, all the duels, what you did in there, what was done to kill you and how hard it was, etc?

PvP would be much less popular than it is in that game.

Now, if you had ALL the gankers in a single server with you, if there was non consensual PvP EVERYWHERE at all moments, and your beloved super-axes and those cute shoulderpads you're so proud of couldd DROP to be picked up and used/sold by whoever cracked your skull in-game...

...What would the playerbase be like? I mean, how may active subscriptions would they lose?

Millions.

This game is different. Not suitable for most MMORPG users.

Eve is pretty successful in the MMO world. It has been around for 8 years and still has a paying subscriber base.

The harsh death penalties and steep learning curve will always keep it a niche. The lack of ambulation pushes it even further into a niche. But as long as the devs work to keep the game modernized, Eve will always be around. I don't think any other company will ever successfully fill Eve's niche - especially not after Blizzard revealed to the gaming world that a well-crafted MMORPG tailored for mass appeal is a money factory.

"no point" is the point...one of the best things about EVE..."Butterfly Effect", anyone?

This thread is quite a showcase of how proud this community is, and that it doens't only consist of trolltastic griefing cyberbullies, seeing the amount of civilized discussion going on.

would read again!