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Joe Skellington
Sarz'na Khumatari
#41 - 2012-04-19 17:59:11 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
So.... you guys are effectively telling me, that 12 guys ( or 1 guy with 12 accounts, or 2 guys with..........) would be so lifeless, that they would sit around a high-sec stargate in a t3 BC, hoping for a freighter to pass through?

Seriously though, i have never ever ever ever ever witnessed anything like that.


I've never seen a T3 Battlecruiser either, you mean a Tier 3?

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Culmen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-04-19 18:07:58 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
So.... you guys are effectively telling me, that 12 guys ( or 1 guy with 12 accounts, or 2 guys with..........) would be so lifeless, that they would sit around a high-sec stargate in a t3 BC, hoping for a freighter to pass through?

Seriously though, i have never ever ever ever ever witnessed anything like that.


This is EVE online, people do mining ops.
They'll do a gank fleet.

Also, nobody just sits around a gate waiting for a freighter.
They have one guy with a passive targeter sitting on the gate scanning.
and 20 guys in an ambush spot 1000 KM from the gate waiting aligned.

There is a fine line between a post and a signature.

Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
#43 - 2012-04-19 18:08:10 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
Red Frog Rufen wrote:
how do you spider tank a volley from 12 tornados?

you just don't, you get destroyed.


Uhm, a volley of 12 tornados? what? how big are the odds of that happening in faction space?


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13008842
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12979873
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13030185
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12942099

those are just in the last few weeks, and only in niarja/uedama.

Joe Skellington
Sarz'na Khumatari
#44 - 2012-04-19 18:10:02 UTC
Red Frog Rufen wrote:
Mark Androcius wrote:
Red Frog Rufen wrote:
how do you spider tank a volley from 12 tornados?

you just don't, you get destroyed.


Uhm, a volley of 12 tornados? what? how big are the odds of that happening in faction space?


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13008842

those are just in the last few weeks, and only in niarja/uedama.



Why would anyone move plex out of a station? That's just silly.

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Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-04-19 18:26:32 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
if you carry more then 1bil of stuff in a freighter your asking to be suicide ganked... so you won't use the space anyway

even still you must be carrying a lot of crap to care about 80k m3

all the freighters have an advantage in some way

Providence has the best tank and best looks, bascally a rebel transport from star wars.
charon most capacity
obelisk is well rounded but you also can use the itteron 5 which has something like 50k capacity, the most of any industrial ship
the fenrir is the fastest and looks like a sand crawler from star wars.



I dont think the Prov has the best tank. Doesnt it have sometime like 140k whereas the Obelisk has almost 150k? Could be wrong.

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Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2012-04-19 20:27:45 UTC
Red Frog Rufen wrote:
Mark Androcius wrote:
Red Frog Rufen wrote:
how do you spider tank a volley from 12 tornados?

you just don't, you get destroyed.


Uhm, a volley of 12 tornados? what? how big are the odds of that happening in faction space?


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13008842
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12979873
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13030185
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12942099

those are just in the last few weeks, and only in niarja/uedama.


Proof or it didn't happ...

I rest my case. Freighters need to lose those hitpoints. No ship should have such a high hp barrier without tank mods and since it can't even fit them....42k hitpoints sound about right. Need to stealth buff hulks and freighters being non-combat ships, this would fix it up real nice as a freighter would be far more valuable.
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-04-19 20:30:51 UTC
Aqriue wrote:
Red Frog Rufen wrote:
Mark Androcius wrote:
Red Frog Rufen wrote:
how do you spider tank a volley from 12 tornados?

you just don't, you get destroyed.


Uhm, a volley of 12 tornados? what? how big are the odds of that happening in faction space?


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13008842
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12979873
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13030185
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12942099

those are just in the last few weeks, and only in niarja/uedama.


Proof or it didn't happ...

I rest my case. Freighters need to lose those hitpoints. No ship should have such a high hp barrier without tank mods and since it can't even fit them....42k hitpoints sound about right. Need to stealth buff hulks and freighters being non-combat ships, this would fix it up real nice as a freighter would be far more valuable.


You do realize Freighters are huge ******* ships right? And that they use Capital components to make. They should not be easy to destroy. Not by a long shot.

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#48 - 2012-04-19 20:43:25 UTC
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Thank the GODS this thread is about Freighters.

Not too much room for argument here. Smile

We can debate fits...

When I first started playing years ago it took me around an hour to realize why I couldn't find any freighter fits. It was driving me crazy.

So of course my favorite Obelisk fit is:

Highs: nothing
Mids: nothing
Lows: nothing

Totally cap stable.
Culmen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-04-20 02:58:16 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Thank the GODS this thread is about Freighters.

Not too much room for argument here. Smile

We can debate fits...

When I first started playing years ago it took me around an hour to realize why I couldn't find any freighter fits. It was driving me crazy.

So of course my favorite Obelisk fit is:

Highs: nothing
Mids: nothing
Lows: nothing

Totally cap stable.


You should swap out the Nothing for a Nothing II if you have the skills.
Otherwise a good fit.

There is a fine line between a post and a signature.

Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#50 - 2012-04-20 03:32:01 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
So of course my favorite Obelisk fit is:

Highs: nothing
Mids: nothing
Lows: nothing

Totally cap stable.
For a while this was the highest rated fit on Battleclinic, until it was removed. Sad
Had over 2000 "+1's" if I remember rightly.

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.

Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#51 - 2012-04-20 03:39:17 UTC
Culmen wrote:
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Thank the GODS this thread is about Freighters.

Not too much room for argument here. Smile

We can debate fits...

When I first started playing years ago it took me around an hour to realize why I couldn't find any freighter fits. It was driving me crazy.

So of course my favorite Obelisk fit is:

Highs: nothing
Mids: nothing
Lows: nothing

Totally cap stable.


You should swap out the Nothing for a Nothing II if you have the skills.
Otherwise a good fit.


I would, but the ISK is kind of a barrier. Do you have ANY idea how much Nothing costs?
Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-04-20 03:56:09 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
So.... you guys are effectively telling me, that 12 guys ( or 1 guy with 12 accounts, or 2 guys with..........) would be so lifeless, that they would sit around a high-sec stargate in a t3 BC, hoping for a freighter to pass through?

Seriously though, i have never ever ever ever ever witnessed anything like that.


Yes. It happens all the time, though generally at choke points or on the approach to Jita.

If you're moving between two systems in the back end of Khanid, you probably aren't going to get suicide ganked. If you are moving goods to market though you risk a gank.

Inability to move bulk goods securely is a problem in this game, though not one that many people are willing to admit to.

Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-04-20 04:09:23 UTC
Wait... I have a Charon pilot... :< I wanted to have the best most pretty freighting ship ever! Speed isn't everything you know! Sometime's flatness is a good thing.

Ferox #1

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#54 - 2012-04-20 11:28:59 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
So.... you guys are effectively telling me, that 12 guys ( or 1 guy with 12 accounts, or 2 guys with..........) would be so lifeless, that they would sit around a high-sec stargate in a t3 BC, hoping for a freighter to pass through?

Seriously though, i have never ever ever ever ever witnessed anything like that.


You should get out more.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#55 - 2012-04-20 11:31:54 UTC
Joe Skellington wrote:



Why would anyone move plex out of a station? That's just silly.


Hardly.

Many other MUCH more expensive items are moved regularly out of Stations.

It's moving 74 PLEX out of Jita in a FRIGATE that's an issue.............

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#56 - 2012-04-20 14:05:07 UTC
Grumpymunky wrote:
Graic Gabtar wrote:
So of course my favorite Obelisk fit is:

Highs: nothing
Mids: nothing
Lows: nothing

Totally cap stable.
For a while this was the highest rated fit on Battleclinic, until it was removed. Sad
Had over 2000 "+1's" if I remember rightly.


It still is

Second highest is a Level 4 Passive Drake at 800+

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt

Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
#57 - 2012-04-20 14:14:25 UTC
Aqriue wrote:

Proof or it didn't happ...

Every kill is API verified.

"Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise." 

Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
#58 - 2012-04-21 03:50:53 UTC
Aqriue wrote:


I rest my case. Freighters need to lose those hitpoints. No ship should have such a high hp barrier without tank mods and since it can't even fit them....42k hitpoints sound about right. Need to stealth buff hulks and freighters being non-combat ships, this would fix it up real nice as a freighter would be far more valuable.


freighter with 42k hit points are called Orca.
Raiz Nhell
Tactically Challenged
The Initiative.
#59 - 2012-04-21 05:56:06 UTC
How often does Officer nothing drop,and where does it drop....

And do I need to skill up for T2 nothing fits...

There is no such thing as a fair fight...

If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.

Sunviking
Doomheim
#60 - 2012-04-21 10:55:13 UTC
Montevius Williams wrote:
Aqriue wrote:
Red Frog Rufen wrote:
Mark Androcius wrote:
Red Frog Rufen wrote:
how do you spider tank a volley from 12 tornados?

you just don't, you get destroyed.


Uhm, a volley of 12 tornados? what? how big are the odds of that happening in faction space?


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13008842
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12979873
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13030185
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12942099

those are just in the last few weeks, and only in niarja/uedama.


Proof or it didn't happ...

I rest my case. Freighters need to lose those hitpoints. No ship should have such a high hp barrier without tank mods and since it can't even fit them....42k hitpoints sound about right. Need to stealth buff hulks and freighters being non-combat ships, this would fix it up real nice as a freighter would be far more valuable.


You do realize Freighters are huge ******* ships right? And that they use Capital components to make. They should not be easy to destroy. Not by a long shot.


Also, only another Freighter can loot a Freighter wreck, so unless CCP have changed that mechanic, you need another Freighter standing by, sitting next to an tractor-beaming Orca to pull that wreck in.