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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Ai Shun
#4381 - 2012-04-20 01:38:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Ai Shun
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Doesn't matter, you're definitely a master of subtle manipulation and misrepresentation which I commend you on. I especially like how you advocate that WiS content should definitely be developed and implemented..................not as an integral part of Eve Online but purely as a completely separate game. Kudo's to you.


Not as a completely separate game. Dust 514 is a different genre in the EVE Universe that interacts with EVE FiS. My argument is for a WiS / Avatar game based in EVE Universe that interacts with EVE FiS.
There are logical reasons for that:

(a) It re-allocates the WoD team to WiS so we can see faster results
(b) It allows for it to be funded on its own so it has more stability and can be worked on independently
(c) It follows a new model CCP is introducing to introduce different game types into the EVE Universe, like Dust 514 which gives us a safety net which still gives us interaction with EVE FiS (I included the concept of cross-over characters) with a modular build so the content transition can be seamless for EVE FiS players and separate for pure EVE WiS players
(d) It compromises between different groups of players and creates more opportunity as it can target players not covered under the current EVE Online target market

You can keep on calling that trolling and trying to pretend it is otherwise, but that just seems like trolling in and of itself. You are allowing yourself to discard an opportunity because of your blind hatred for me.

Would it help if I apologised for asking you to prove an assertion you made? Would that soothe your ego?

If you back to that original post - I told you I have heard both groups of players claim their camp had the most support. I asked you if you had proof of your statement, because I would like to know. I've never encountered a situation where a polite request for information I did not have was met with such hostility. It seems ... defensive. Unnatural. I don't think apologising for asking a polite question is necessary; but if that is what it takes to ensure you stop misrepresenting me and trolling me I'll happily do that.

There is no need for this level of animosity, DMC. This is a game and we both seem to want WiS content!

And yes, you eventually provided something; but that was something that does not constitute hard evidence. It was a polluted, biased sample that cannot be used to extrapolate an answer.

Edit: If you would like to refer back to the original post I am talking about - you can find it linked from here.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#4382 - 2012-04-20 01:51:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
DeMichael Crimson wrote:


Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:

I sense anger

Lemme try this...

"Umad bro?"

Did I do it right?


Ahhh, must be a coincidence that Sigurd Sig Hansen (Newly Created Alt) just happens to post right afterwards in all the same threads.

In answer to your troll questions, No. I'm just tired of dealing with your crap.


Id post on my main but I cant

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game

Ai Shun
#4383 - 2012-04-20 01:54:28 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
[Id post on my main but I cant cause I quoted you


I'm posting right after you to confirm that you are my alt. And that we engage in loving pages of argumentative discussions. But it is all part of the master conspiracy to prevent WiS from happening.

First, build up a credible alternative personality through alts.
Then, argue amongst them.
....
Fourth. No more Walking in Stations.

Or something like that. I'm still trying to figure it out entirely. I think there is an opportunity for cheese, ponies or money in there too.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4384 - 2012-04-20 01:55:40 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Ai Shun wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Doesn't matter, you're definitely a master of subtle manipulation and misrepresentation which I commend you on. I especially like how you advocate that WiS content should definitely be developed and implemented..................not as an integral part of Eve Online but purely as a completely separate game. Kudo's to you.


Not as a completely separate game. Dust 514 is a different genre in the EVE Universe that interacts with EVE FiS. My argument is for a WiS / Avatar game based in EVE Universe that interacts with EVE FiS.
There are logical reasons for that:

(a) It re-allocates the WoD team to WiS so we can see faster results
(b) It allows for it to be funded on its own so it has more stability and can be worked on independently
(c) It follows a new model CCP is introducing to introduce different game types into the EVE Universe, like Dust 514 which gives us a safety net which still gives us interaction with EVE FiS (I included the concept of cross-over characters) with a modular build so the content transition can be seamless for EVE FiS players and separate for pure EVE WiS players
(d) It compromises between different groups of players and creates more opportunity as it can target players not covered under the current EVE Online target market



Hey, I was already sold on the idea.

Roll

Anyway, you had me for that much of your reply, the rest of it basically just turned into an incitement to flame war, which you seem hell bent to conduct. Don't know how much plainer I can say this.

STOP IT.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#4385 - 2012-04-20 02:08:51 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Doesn't matter, you're definitely a master of subtle manipulation and misrepresentation which I commend you on. I especially like how you advocate that WiS content should definitely be developed and implemented..................not as an integral part of Eve Online but purely as a completely separate game. Kudo's to you.


Not as a completely separate game. Dust 514 is a different genre in the EVE Universe that interacts with EVE FiS. My argument is for a WiS / Avatar game based in EVE Universe that interacts with EVE FiS.
There are logical reasons for that:

(a) It re-allocates the WoD team to WiS so we can see faster results
(b) It allows for it to be funded on its own so it has more stability and can be worked on independently
(c) It follows a new model CCP is introducing to introduce different game types into the EVE Universe, like Dust 514 which gives us a safety net which still gives us interaction with EVE FiS (I included the concept of cross-over characters) with a modular build so the content transition can be seamless for EVE FiS players and separate for pure EVE WiS players
(d) It compromises between different groups of players and creates more opportunity as it can target players not covered under the current EVE Online target market



Hey, I was already sold on the idea.

Roll

Anyway, you had me for that much of your reply, the rest of it basically just turned into an incitement to flame war, which you seem hell bent to conduct. Don't know how much plainer I can say this.

STOP IT.


Which part was the incitement to flame/race war?

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4386 - 2012-04-20 02:29:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
DeMichael Cartman wrote:
Tin foil conspiracy theories

Dude, really? Cocaine is a helluva drug.

You blame others for attempting to derail or troll this thread yet there you go again. And insulting the Devs to boot.

DeMichael Cartman wrote:
STOP IT.


Maybe if you didn't sperge personal attacks and insults and/or threaten to report players to CCP (mommy) whenever someone simply asked you a question you didn't like, or whenever others here disagree with your position, you might just garner some respect.


/confirming I am the alt of every player who has ever disagreed with Cartman.
//confirming I devote 110% of my waking hours to making sure WiS does not happen.
///confirming I also kidnapped the Lindbergh baby.
//// slashies!

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

RAP ACTION HERO
#4387 - 2012-04-20 02:36:37 UTC  |  Edited by: RAP ACTION HERO
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Anti-WiS players don't have anything to worry about. Their fears can be laid to rest. There won't ever be any WiS Ambulation implemented in Eve Online. The song and dance routine by CCP in this thread is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Hilmar's statement - "Watch what they do, not what they say." - is a very good philosophy to go by. I understand now why the majority of true Pro-WiS players have left this thread

CCP has no plan to implement areas where multiple Avatars can interact. The Captains Quarters was specifically implemented to facilitate the acquisition of more money through the NEX STORE and MT, nothing more. CCP's blatant refusal to speculate on any future plans regarding multiple Avatar interaction, the continued lack of information regarding future content, their inability to specify a timeline or show any current basic programing work speaks for itself.

Team Avatar is just a name, nothing more. It's a dog and pony show, some PR fluff created to placate a percentage of the player base. The little bit of Avatar content they do release was already created previously with Incarna. This whole thread has been ruled by and over-run by Anti-WiS players trolling Pro-WiS players from the very start. This thread portrays a perfect example of futility by true Pro-WiS players which has been a colossal waste of time. With that realization, I now say this to the very few remaining true Pro-WiS players still posting in this thread, don't waste any more of your precious time dealing with this facade. Your time is better spent doing much more enjoyable things.


Nice personal insult on the devs, so bitter. Is that what you consider constructive voicing of opinions? So any opinions against-wis, or for-wis but not fitting to your exact specifications is trolling?
Why don't you stop your dog and pony grandstanding conspiracy theory show posting?
What makes you a True Pro-Wis is it because you have a evewiki page? do you drop faction loot when popped?

vitoc erryday

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#4388 - 2012-04-20 02:43:34 UTC
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Anti-WiS players don't have anything to worry about. Their fears can be laid to rest. There won't ever be any WiS Ambulation implemented in Eve Online. The song and dance routine by CCP in this thread is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Hilmar's statement - "Watch what they do, not what they say." - is a very good philosophy to go by. I understand now why the majority of true Pro-WiS players have left this thread

CCP has no plan to implement areas where multiple Avatars can interact. The Captains Quarters was specifically implemented to facilitate the acquisition of more money through the NEX STORE and MT, nothing more. CCP's blatant refusal to speculate on any future plans regarding multiple Avatar interaction, the continued lack of information regarding future content, their inability to specify a timeline or show any current basic programing work speaks for itself.

Team Avatar is just a name, nothing more. It's a dog and pony show, some PR fluff created to placate a percentage of the player base. The little bit of Avatar content they do release was already created previously with Incarna. This whole thread has been ruled by and over-run by Anti-WiS players trolling Pro-WiS players from the very start. This thread portrays a perfect example of futility by true Pro-WiS players which has been a colossal waste of time. With that realization, I now say this to the very few remaining true Pro-WiS players still posting in this thread, don't waste any more of your precious time dealing with this facade. Your time is better spent doing much more enjoyable things.


Nice personal insult on the devs, so bitter. Is that what you consider constructive voicing of opinions? So any opinions against-wis, or for-wis but not fitting to your exact specifications is trolling?
Why don't you stop your dog and pony grandstanding conspiracy theory show posting?
What makes you a True Pro-Wis is it because you have a evewiki page? do you drop faction loot when popped?


This is literally DMC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmCL0gIhkLM

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4389 - 2012-04-20 02:47:42 UTC
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
Nice personal insult on the devs, so bitter. Is that what you consider constructive voicing of opinions? So any opinions against-wis, or for-wis but not fitting to your exact specifications is trolling?
Why don't you stop your dog and pony grandstanding conspiracy theory show posting?
What makes you a True Pro-Wis is it because you have a evewiki page? do you drop faction loot when popped?

And you're the last one to speak but not the least, thank you for completing the troll parade.

I can voice my opinion of Team Avatar, this thread and it's topic however I see fit. As for the rest of your reply, thanks for being off topic. Oh by the way, please grow a pair and come see me in-game.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#4390 - 2012-04-20 02:49:30 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
Nice personal insult on the devs, so bitter. Is that what you consider constructive voicing of opinions? So any opinions against-wis, or for-wis but not fitting to your exact specifications is trolling?
Why don't you stop your dog and pony grandstanding conspiracy theory show posting?
What makes you a True Pro-Wis is it because you have a evewiki page? do you drop faction loot when popped?

And you're the last one to speak but not the least, thank you for completing the troll parade.

I can voice my opinion of Team Avatar, this thread and it's topic however I see fit. As for the rest of your reply, thanks for being off topic. Oh by the way, please grow a pair and come see me in-game.


Oh RunDMC. Don't ever stop.

I'll bet you reported his post, too. You've probably reported all these posts.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

RAP ACTION HERO
#4391 - 2012-04-20 02:54:52 UTC
Oh christ, we are all offtopic insulting trolls in DMC-land

****WARNING OFFTOPIC
grow a pair and see you ingame? hmmm last known activity september 2011, "known" because you wrote all about it in your wiki and called it "The Assassination", pretty fancy.

vitoc erryday

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4392 - 2012-04-20 02:56:21 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:


Wow, you really are an assholetroll.

Lapine Davion wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
Nice personal insult on the devs, so bitter. Is that what you consider constructive voicing of opinions? So any opinions against-wis, or for-wis but not fitting to your exact specifications is trolling?
Why don't you stop your dog and pony grandstanding conspiracy theory show posting?
What makes you a True Pro-Wis is it because you have a evewiki page? do you drop faction loot when popped?

And you're the last one to speak but not the least, thank you for completing the troll parade.

I can voice my opinion of Team Avatar, this thread and it's topic however I see fit. As for the rest of your reply, thanks for being off topic. Oh by the way, please grow a pair and come see me in-game.


Oh RunDMC. Don't ever stop.

I'll bet you reported his post, too. You've probably reported all these posts.

Now why would I report your replies? hmmmmm, oh right, because it's blatant trolling.
tomato1
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4393 - 2012-04-20 02:57:00 UTC  |  Edited by: tomato1
this my two cents, but ccp wants meaningful when i think of that means to me by them is running a bar or store or some ****, im not complaining about that could be cool but what i will say is would be nice if there was something fun like perhaps races....

pod racing haha yeah i fuccckin love starwars.. so do you ;-P one thing when i started eve is i was not all exieted about not being able to fly my ship quote on quote (control movement) but if you had races you could enter in stations that would be awesome could have upgradeble racers, rank up, gambling, would be competitive, probly be on a planet idk like horse racing,,, just way flippin better then quarter mile ;-)

and just to say one day ccp just might pull it off and rename this game star wars haha... but they'd have to do it way better to do that ;)

p.s.s. um and i wouldnt want it to be a skill thing like i got wait to skill up to race....that would be slow race...should be something like the skill of the racer is how fast he can...race and hense you bet on who you thinks going win
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#4394 - 2012-04-20 02:57:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Ai Shun wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
[Id post on my main but I cant cause I quoted you


I'm posting right after you to confirm that you are my alt. And that we engage in loving pages of argumentative discussions. But it is all part of the master conspiracy to prevent WiS from happening.

First, build up a credible alternative personality through alts.
Then, argue amongst them.
....
Fourth. No more Walking in Stations.

Or something like that. I'm still trying to figure it out entirely. I think there is an opportunity for cheese, ponies or money in there too.


Im YOUR alt? Crazy RP there O.o

I wasnt talking about you anyways lol Theres a reason I editted that lol

Doc Fury wrote:


and/or threaten to report players to CCP (mommy)


yeah thatd be the quote sorta

IM Doc Fury/s alt too

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4395 - 2012-04-20 03:00:50 UTC
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
Oh christ, we are all offtopic insulting trolls in DMC-land

****WARNING OFFTOPIC
grow a pair and see you ingame? hmmm last known activity september 2011, "known" because you wrote all about it in your wiki and called it "The Assassination", pretty fancy.

Salazar, is that you?

So what, why are you bringing that **** up for? God you must be desperate. How about instead of talking all big here in this thread, let's take it in-game. Unless trolling in the forums is all you can do.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#4396 - 2012-04-20 03:01:01 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

I can voice my opinion of Team Avatar, this thread and it's topic however I see fit.



Until we mash the report buttons too about your blatant trolling?

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4397 - 2012-04-20 03:02:50 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

I can voice my opinion of Team Avatar, this thread and it's topic however I see fit.



Until we mash the report buttons too about your blatant trolling?

Please do
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#4398 - 2012-04-20 03:03:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

I can voice my opinion of Team Avatar, this thread and it's topic however I see fit.



Until we mash the report buttons too about your blatant trolling?

Please do


am actually, lets see if it helps for us...

when in Rome... If you cant beat em... etc

Realize tho; if they get enough crap from ppl spamming the report button in this thread they may just lock it instead :p

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#4399 - 2012-04-20 03:06:40 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
Oh christ, we are all offtopic insulting trolls in DMC-land

****WARNING OFFTOPIC
grow a pair and see you ingame? hmmm last known activity september 2011, "known" because you wrote all about it in your wiki and called it "The Assassination", pretty fancy.

Salazar, is that you?

So what, why are you bringing that **** up for? God you must be desperate. How about instead of talking all big here in this thread, let's take it in-game. Unless trolling in the forums is all you can do.


I'm am pretty sure Rap Action Hero isn't Salazar Slytherin, who is a fictional character.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

tomato1
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4400 - 2012-04-20 03:09:44 UTC
IM GOING REPOST THIS CAUSE YOU GUYS KEEP GOING OFF TOPIC TALKING ABOUT GOING OFF TOPIC....WAIT WUT ;-P

SHUT UP



This my two cents, but ccp wants meaningful when i think of that means to me by them is running a bar or store or some ****, im not complaining about that could be cool but what i will say is would be nice if there was something fun like perhaps races....

pod racing haha yeah i fuccckin love starwars.. so do you ;-P one thing when i started eve is i was not all exieted about not being able to fly my ship quote on quote (control movement) but if you had races you could enter in stations that would be awesome could have upgradeble racers, rank up, gambling, would be competitive, probly be on a planet idk like horse racing,,, just way flippin better then quarter mile ;-)

and just to say one day ccp just might pull it off and rename this game star wars haha... but they'd have to do it way better to do that ;)

p.s.s. um and i wouldnt want it to be a skill thing like i got wait to skill up to race....that would be slow race...should be something like the skill of the racer is how fast he can...race and hense you bet on who you thinks going win