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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5261 - 2012-04-19 22:07:34 UTC
Sasha Azala wrote:
masternerdguy wrote:
Herping yourDerp wrote:
623 pages of feelings RollCool


Unfortunately this thread's growth rate has really slowed.



Because people are bored with it as everything has been said already.


We could talk about moderation and why other threads get closed when they get to this state yet this one remains active.

Because it's all political bullshit which is proven by the biased selective moderation being done in these forums.

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Shea Valerien
House of Valerien
#5262 - 2012-04-19 22:45:02 UTC
Jitageddon Is Coming wrote:
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE MITTANI IS NOTHING SHORT OF A HERO TO THIS GAME AND ALL OTHER ONLINE GAMES IN THE WORLD. HE IS TO ONLINE GAMES AS WHAT JESUS CHRIST IS TO CHRISTIANITY. WHAT ALLAH IS TO MUSLIMS. LIKE ALL HEROS IS ANY TALE, THERE IS OF COURSE THE HATTERS/VILLANS.


Hatters gonna hat.
Ai Shun
#5263 - 2012-04-19 23:10:31 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
I really hope you never do something wrong and have to fake an apology for it.

Fixed. And agreed. I hope so too.



Fixing something means it was broken. What I wrote was not broken. You are welcome to say something else if that is what you feel, but please do not change something I wrote into something different. That is fundamentally dishonest as you are attributing a statement to me that I did not make.

That said, who are you to judge if a person feels remorse or not? Would you want people to treat you as if your apology is fake if you make one?

That is a high moral ground you are putting yourself on. I sincerely hope you are as perfect as you imply you are. Then and again, given that you misrepresent what I said probably not P
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5264 - 2012-04-19 23:11:21 UTC
Jitageddon Is Coming wrote:
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE MITTANI IS NOTHING SHORT OF A HERO TO THIS GAME AND ALL OTHER ONLINE GAMES IN THE WORLD. HE IS TO ONLINE GAMES AS WHAT JESUS CHRIST IS TO CHRISTIANITY. WHAT ALLAH IS TO MUSLIMS. LIKE ALL HEROS IS ANY TALE, THERE IS OF COURSE THE HATTERS/VILLANS.


Can you hear that? The whispering?

It's like the thread itself is alive........ muttering madly to itself...

"So many tears... so many precious tears....."
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5265 - 2012-04-19 23:13:24 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
I really hope you never do something wrong and have to fake an apology for it.

Fixed. And agreed. I hope so too.



Fixing something means it was broken. What I wrote was not broken. You are welcome to say something else if that is what you feel, but please do not change something I wrote into something different. That is fundamentally dishonest as you are attributing a statement to me that I did not make.

That said, who are you to judge if a person feels remorse or not? Would you want people to treat you as if your apology is fake if you make one?

That is a high moral ground you are putting yourself on. I sincerely hope you are as perfect as you imply you are. Then and again, given that you misrepresent what I said probably not P



If I made an apology like that and people believed me, then I would think people are pretty dumb.

The Mittani thinks people are pretty dumb. Coincidence?
Ai Shun
#5266 - 2012-04-19 23:14:49 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
I really hope you never do something wrong and have to fake an apology for it.

Fixed. And agreed. I hope so too.



Fixing something means it was broken. What I wrote was not broken. You are welcome to say something else if that is what you feel, but please do not change something I wrote into something different. That is fundamentally dishonest as you are attributing a statement to me that I did not make.

That said, who are you to judge if a person feels remorse or not? Would you want people to treat you as if your apology is fake if you make one?

That is a high moral ground you are putting yourself on. I sincerely hope you are as perfect as you imply you are. Then and again, given that you misrepresent what I said probably not P



If I made an apology like that and people believed me, then I would think people are pretty dumb.

The Mittani thinks people are pretty dumb. Coincidence?


And I think you are pretty dumb. Guess there is no coincidence then.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#5267 - 2012-04-19 23:21:45 UTC
AI Shun, just let these people have their circlejerk. This thread is pretty much dead now.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Ai Shun
#5268 - 2012-04-19 23:27:30 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
AI Shun, just let these people have their circlejerk. This thread is pretty much dead now.


You are probably right; but these holier than thou types are making me want to be a Goon / ganker P
GOON TEARS BEST-TEARS
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5269 - 2012-04-19 23:30:09 UTC
Jitageddon Is Coming wrote:
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE MITTANI IS NOTHING SHORT OF A HERO TO THIS GAME AND ALL OTHER ONLINE GAMES IN THE WORLD. HE IS TO ONLINE GAMES AS WHAT JESUS CHRIST IS TO CHRISTIANITY. WHAT ALLAH IS TO MUSLIMS. LIKE ALL HEROS IS ANY TALE, THERE IS OF COURSE THE HATTERS/VILLANS.


Why so serious?? U MAD BRO ?
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#5270 - 2012-04-19 23:55:37 UTC
T-B0NE wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Yeah ppl totally just PLAY sociopaths and arent them IRL

When I come home from a hard day of putting up with others people's crap, and having to do it with a smile on my face, I'm glad their is a game where I can sit back and make someone else's life hell for once. I don't think that makes me a sociopath, if anything I believe having this outlet to vent in such a manner makes me a more well adjusted individual.

Some people drink, I play EVE (and drink)


right... let me say it again as you missed it the first time:

Quote:
A sociopath is a person who has antisocial personality disorder. The term sociopath is no longer used to describe this disorder. The sociopath is now described as someone with antisocial personality disorder.

The main characteristic of a sociopath is a disregard for the rights of others. Sociopaths are also unable to conform to what society defines as a normal personality. Antisocial tendencies are a big part of the sociopath’s personality. This pattern usually comes into evidence around the age of 15. If it is not treated, it can develop into adulthood.

Visible symptoms include physical aggression and the inability to hold down a steady job. The sociopath also finds it hard to sustain relationships and shows a lack of regret in his or her actions. A major personality behavior trait is the violation of the rights of others. This can appear as a disregard for the physical or sexual wellbeing of another.

Although these symptoms are all present, they may not always be evident. Research has shown that the sociopath is usually a person with an abundance of charm and wit. He or she may appear friendly and considerate, but these attributes are usually superficial. They are used as a way of blinding the other person to the personal agenda behind the sociopath’s behaviour.

Many people with antisocial personality disorder frequently indulge in alcohol or drug use.


Thx for proving my point

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Ai Shun
#5271 - 2012-04-19 23:57:01 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
T-B0NE wrote:
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Yeah ppl totally just PLAY sociopaths and arent them IRL

When I come home from a hard day of putting up with others people's crap, and having to do it with a smile on my face, I'm glad their is a game where I can sit back and make someone else's life hell for once. I don't think that makes me a sociopath, if anything I believe having this outlet to vent in such a manner makes me a more well adjusted individual.

Some people drink, I play EVE (and drink)


right... let me say it again as you missed it the first time:

Quote:
A sociopath is a person who has antisocial personality disorder. The term sociopath is no longer used to describe this disorder. The sociopath is now described as someone with antisocial personality disorder.

The main characteristic of a sociopath is a disregard for the rights of others. Sociopaths are also unable to conform to what society defines as a normal personality. Antisocial tendencies are a big part of the sociopath’s personality. This pattern usually comes into evidence around the age of 15. If it is not treated, it can develop into adulthood.

Visible symptoms include physical aggression and the inability to hold down a steady job. The sociopath also finds it hard to sustain relationships and shows a lack of regret in his or her actions. A major personality behavior trait is the violation of the rights of others. This can appear as a disregard for the physical or sexual wellbeing of another.

Although these symptoms are all present, they may not always be evident. Research has shown that the sociopath is usually a person with an abundance of charm and wit. He or she may appear friendly and considerate, but these attributes are usually superficial. They are used as a way of blinding the other person to the personal agenda behind the sociopath’s behaviour.

Many people with antisocial personality disorder frequently indulge in alcohol or drug use.


Thx for proving my point


I'm still struggling to not go eat my lawn after playing a Tauren Shaman for so many years.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#5272 - 2012-04-19 23:59:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Ai Shun wrote:
Samuel payne Thorstensen wrote:
What Mittani did is not only childish, and stupid


Yeah, that's why he apologised. And why people threatened his wife. You know. People are stupid in general.

Samuel payne Thorstensen wrote:
but also against the law


At the risk of feeding you - but where? Iceland? The United States? The State he lives in? (Now known because with the threats to him his home address was also released) Abu Dhabi? The Internet?


The US for ONE

Its called Cyberbullying and if needed I can yet again get those definitions (including the one that says "when it involves adults is accompanied with jail time)
and YES, in the US its illegal (Arizona especially).

Which makes me wonder when playing EVE will become a crime

Ai Shun wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
AI Shun, just let these people have their circlejerk. This thread is pretty much dead now.


You are probably right; but these holier than thou types are making me want to be a Goon / ganker P


and what about those that drink the kool aid?

You cant possibly be that naieve?

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#5273 - 2012-04-20 00:03:39 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:


I'm still struggling to not go eat my lawn after playing a Tauren Shaman for so many years.


Why would someone wanna role play theyre that stupid that they cant tell the difference

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Shea Valerien
House of Valerien
#5274 - 2012-04-20 00:04:35 UTC
Arizona's Cyberharassment law is at Ariz. Rev. Stat. § 13-2921.

Most other states either have a Cyberstalking or Cyberharassment law, or both.

Federal Cyberstalking law is found at 47 USC s. 223.

For the most part, the states are the ones doing enforcement of the cyberstalking and harassment laws, though.

I don't know the laws in other countries, but I would imagine that at least some of the EU countries have cyber laws.
Teiret
Teir3T
#5275 - 2012-04-20 00:05:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Teiret
[Sigurd Sig Hansen = bollocks]

Presumably this copy/paste definition (prolly from wikipedia) was to inform us that ingame behaviour mirrors RL personality?

May one ask, does your forum avatar represent the real you?

Or for that matter, would you speak to someone IRL the way you do on these forums?

Let's keep this rhetoric chain running...

Was Hannibal the Cannibal (a fictional character for the scrubs) justified in eating "the free range rude"?
Ai Shun
#5276 - 2012-04-20 00:07:55 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
The US for ONE

Its called Cyberbullying and if needed I can yet again get those definitions (including the one that says "when it involves adults is accompanied with jail time)
and YES, in the US its illegal (Arizona especially).

Which makes me wonder when playing EVE will become a crime


Interesting. I'd not realised your laws covered something said at a public gathering in a different country. And that is then treated as "cyberbullying". Surely that should just be "bullying". He didn't say anything in-game or through an electronic medium.

But okay.


Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
You cant possibly be that naieve?


No, but I'm human enough to accept a person's apology and to treat others as I would like to be treated. Maybe old fashioned, but I tend to respect people and their actions and I don't let blind hatred cloud my mind.

Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Why would someone wanna role play theyre that stupid that they cant tell the difference


I'm guessing that swooshing sound was my comment flying right over your tiny little head. No worries though, maybe somebody will come along and explain the difference between video games and reality to you soon.

I can call someone for you. Perhaps one of those men with the little white coats?
Thomas Orca
Broski is ded
#5277 - 2012-04-20 00:19:13 UTC
Shea Valerien wrote:


Federal Cyberstalking law is found at 47 USC s. 223.


I skimmed through it. Didn't really apply to this situation in any way.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#5278 - 2012-04-20 00:22:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Teiret wrote:
[Sigurd Sig Hansen = bollocks]

Presumably this copy/paste definition (prolly from wikipedia) was to inform us that ingame behaviour mirrors RL personality?


thats one...

Quote:
Cyberbullying is the use of technology to harass, threaten, embarrass, or target another person. By definition, it occurs among young people. When an adult is involved, it may meet the definition of cyber-harassment or cyber-stalking, a crime that can have legal consequences and involve jail time.


Thats two...

Quote:
Cyberbullying can be defined as "willful and repeated harm inflicted through the use of computers, cell phones, and other electronic devices."


Thats three... none are wikis btw...

"Cyberbullying is a form of bullying that takes place using an electronic medium.

The term bullying has been defined in different ways by experts in the field. Many use a definition from Olweus, a pioneering researcher on bullying, which states, "...a student is being bullied or victimized when he is exposed repeatedly and over time to negative actions on the part of one or more other students" (Olweus 1993, 9). Other researchers have maintained that bullying involves an intention to hurt the victim, and a power differential between bully and victim (Pepler et al. 1997, 2; Coloroso 2002, 13). Most experts now agree that bullying must include these four features:

Negative or hurtful behaviour: The behaviour of the bully is negative or hurtful to the victim. The bullying behaviour can range from nonverbal aggression, such as stares and teasing, to serious physical assaults. It can be direct or indirect; indirect bullying comprises behaviours that covertly cause distress to the victim, such as gossip, spreading of rumours, or encouraging others to exclude a person (Pepler et al. 1997, 2).
Intent to harm: The bully means to inflict emotional and/or physical harm on the victim.
Imbalance of power: The bully is more powerful (either real or perceived power) than the victim. The power differential in bullying may arise from differences in size and stature, but also from higher social status, a knowledge of vulnerabilities, or from the number of children colluding with the bully (Pepler et al. 1997, 2).
Repeated over time: The negative behaviour towards the victim occurs repeatedly."


[The last one would be true given he's getting multiple people to do his dirty work for him (unless of course you think that doesnt count, in which case youd then think Charles Manson is innocent as he didnt kill ppl, he got ppl to kill them for him).]

Thats Four...

"Cyberbullying is harassment or intimidation of another person through electronic means. Those means may be email, instant messages, blogs, websites, social networking sites, text messages, and telephones. The intent of the cyberbully is hostile and negative."

It can also be called Cyber Stalking and Cyber Harassment as Ive so far read

"May one ask, does your forum avatar represent the real you?

Or for that matter, would you speak to someone IRL the way you do on these forums?"

My forum avatar is an alt and yeah pretty much. And yes, I would, and argue with people that dont disagree with me IRL as well as on a forum. I dont think Ive overly gotten psychotic YET in this thread. Also, Mind you, did I ever say I was SANE? Or does My having mental issues therefore make his being what he appears to be any less true (given I dont think there is any such thing AS sane any longer nowadays)?

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Ai Shun
#5279 - 2012-04-20 00:26:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Ai Shun
Note to self. Killing another player in a video game designed to kill other players is "cyber-bullying". I should let all my fellow players know they're not allowed to discuss a campaign. Heck, we should probably warn the Goons their Burn Jita campaign is cyber bullying.

At least according to ^^ that poor guy.
Thomas Orca
Broski is ded
#5280 - 2012-04-20 00:27:35 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:

:words:


All that text. Still didn't address the point that it was (presumably) an ocean away and used no technology.