EVE General Discussion

i hacked the client so that the only sounds i get is the song what is love baby don't hurt me.

I don't want something happier, I want something that isn't crap

The current in game tracks are actually very nice. They are intended to make you feel the vastness of space or something along those lines. Have you actually listened to the entire OST for EVE? It truly is an artistic achievement and needs to be respected.

Confirming things older than 9 years are irrelevant.

I don't mind the EVE tracks. But I hate it when acceleration gates override my own music in Jukebox. Good-bye song I was listening to, hello EVE track.

No. You'd better off playing your own crappy music with a separate player, like Foobar2000.

Isn't that what I just said? Try reading comprehension 101.

At Fanfest, I believe it was Soundwave who said that based on the metrics that CCP gathered, the majority of EVE players actually played with the sound on. Seems like you are in the vocal minority.

What tantamounts to effort being "objectively" sound for the application? The effort of hashing and rehashing the same 5 rifts to make ten songs while fighting to put it together with a Dreamweaver style interface just as glitchy and uncomprehensive? Could take days per song depending.. How about the effort required to make the songs when you don't have any prior experience? Could make the job take weeks depending on your integrity. So these scenarios must mean that they would be of the highest entertainment value, right

There is a difference between effort and skill just as there is a difference between quantity and quality. Ask yourself this, "Why is it CCP did not just use the Barney, "I love you." song and play it over and over? It would have been easier and cost less to implement it in EVE. Because they wanted something that applied to the universe of EVE, the fact that the songs are of quantity instead of quality in their implementation means they took a cheap shot to fill a void of realism with surrealism.

CCP currently tailors EVE to the likes and dislikes of the local populous. Maybe your just use to this and haven't thought to look into what this means about CCP's corporate fortitude. If CCP had it's own vision, it's own foundation for for the advancement of EVE's potential as the greatest SCI-FY MMO, then the corporation would not see EVE Online as a 'game' but as a Second Life. As such, they would see the need to adapt the MMO to this model meaning no more micro-managing the EVE universe with the gods (CCP) as an in-game (in-EVE-Life) authority thus allowing users to fully control the universe. Now if anyone would like to see how easy this very do-able model could be implemented just let me know and I'll start another thread, without feed back on this I see no need to waist our time explaining the particulars of how they would effect the current EVE universe, its mechanics and how to get there without killing EVE

In the mean time just look at it this way, the sand-box would become a box with sand rather than a beach with a fence on three sides with the forth side open to the ocean waves, the manipulation of CCP by a populous. Did Michelangelo ask his subjects what tools or techniques he should use? Did Leonardo have others invent for him so he could claim the credit? Did Einstein discover E=mc(squared) to build atomic bombs for America? I don't think so. They used Reason to figure it out for themselves. CCP is currently using the people to fulfill what their self-doubt will not allow them to. To define the true reality for what it is.



If CCP said this, is would confirm my assumptions about lazy minds looking for a money tree.



In my book, "Training" is not playing. Nor is "Waiting". I am waiting to see what Inferno ends up as, if the music is still bad I'll leave and take 15 players with me. Don't know if you've noticed but there is nothing else out there for a 35yr old worth paying for any way. My guess is you just need attention so be sure to comment on this thread again. I'll give you all the attention you will ever want and more if need be.

This isn't about likes, it is about application, quality and the integrity between the two and what they are being applied to. EVE was originally based on the "likes" of a small group and was obviously a success. Very "subjective". What is to say it will not work again.



These would be fine, lyrics not withstanding.. The freedom for the player to apply it to their own ways of thinking yet still undertoning the dynamics and nature of EVE is the challenge. My point is that EVE music is the atmosphere that your IRL computer interface does not allow. To feel your in a different world, do this with songs narcissists like and you will attract them. Do this with songs Carebears like and you will attract them. Do this with songs that define the value of EVE and EVE will attract them. Again, let the music tell of the depth and value of this amazing universe, the people will always listen to something else if they want.

Something like:

EVE is a work of art, as such the music is part of that art just as light is part of dark, they compliment eachother where one cannot to the job alone. Therefore, EVE music isn't about taste, it is about communicating what the visuals, activity, and interface can not do alone. Make spaceship love to you.

Music has a basis in reality, regardless of likes and dislikes. Just like the sound of the wind, it is a force of nature. The wind of EVE is Space-Life and the emotions involved, universal emotions like love, hate, sadness, fear, anger, happiness, lust, repulsion regardless of objectivity or subjectivity. These emotions are in all of mankind, a fact of nature, and contrasted against the canvas of EVE you have your template for EVE wind songs.

Here's the best example I have found:

Countdown to Destiny -by Joel Goldsmith

Now tell me that would not work well for EVE-Life if you can. (With your reasons why please.)

...talk about UBRS...


(Why does the preview button steal punctuation and brackets? Is why I had to edit...)

When I'm carebearing, I like to have this playing on my 2nd monitor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSMeUPFjQHc