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Devs, Can we have a change in the Widow Ship bonuses?
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YuuKnow
The Scope
#1 - 2012-04-19 08:45:42 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
Can we change the Widow's missile velocity bonus to a ECM optimal range and fallof bonus so that its more a in line with its parent hull the Scorpion? The missile velocity bonus is sorta useless as with decent missile skills the a cruise missile can already reach out to 100km with even without the bonus. Doesn't really need the velocity bonus to begin with.

yk
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-04-19 13:01:15 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
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Kieron VonDeux
#3 - 2012-04-19 15:38:00 UTC
This was by design IIRC. They wanted the Scorp to have the best jamming range in the game.
They didn't want the Widow to on par with the Scorp's range.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#4 - 2012-04-19 16:43:54 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
Kieron VonDeux wrote:
This was by design IIRC. They wanted the Scorp to have the best jamming range in the game.
They didn't want the Widow to on par with the Scorp's range.


Thats sorta understandable. Still its not a useful bonus at all. These ships aren't used for long range sniping.... maybe change it to something that actually has utility like shield resist or give it a 5% ECM range bonus instead of the Scorpions 10% ECM bonus.
Dibblerette
Solitude-Industries
#5 - 2012-04-19 19:42:44 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
Kieron VonDeux wrote:
This was by design IIRC. They wanted the Scorp to have the best jamming range in the game.
They didn't want the Widow to on par with the Scorp's range.


Thats sorta understandable. Still its not a useful bonus at all. These ships aren't used for long range sniping.... maybe change it to something that actually has utility like shield resist or give it a 5% ECM range bonus instead of the Scorpions 10% ECM bonus.

I think an ECM cycle time would more suited to the Widow's intended "fighting" style. Would be a cool unique reason to use it too, although the sheer sexiness of the Kaalakiota paint on a scorp hull is reason enough imho.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#6 - 2012-04-19 19:49:23 UTC
Dibblerette wrote:
YuuKnow wrote:
Kieron VonDeux wrote:
This was by design IIRC. They wanted the Scorp to have the best jamming range in the game.
They didn't want the Widow to on par with the Scorp's range.


Thats sorta understandable. Still its not a useful bonus at all. These ships aren't used for long range sniping.... maybe change it to something that actually has utility like shield resist or give it a 5% ECM range bonus instead of the Scorpions 10% ECM bonus.

I think an ECM cycle time would more suited to the Widow's intended "fighting" style. Would be a cool unique reason to use it too, although the sheer sexiness of the Kaalakiota paint on a scorp hull is reason enough imho.


Good idea
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-04-19 20:46:37 UTC
I would think most of the range bonuses on BS missile hulls were more aimed at torp use than cruise, or is there a reason why one would not use torps on a widow?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-04-19 20:56:32 UTC
Kieron VonDeux wrote:
This was by design IIRC. They wanted the Scorp to have the best jamming range in the game.
They didn't want the Widow to on par with the Scorp's range.


sure, because having a highly specialized T2 ship be better than its T1 counterpart would be silly...

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Jesus Rambo
Criterion.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#9 - 2012-04-20 01:30:28 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Kieron VonDeux wrote:
This was by design IIRC. They wanted the Scorp to have the best jamming range in the game.
They didn't want the Widow to on par with the Scorp's range.


sure, because having a highly specialized T2 ship be better than its T1 counterpart would be silly...


Yeah, you're right, the ability to jump to covert cynos and open black ops bridges doesn't really add anything.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#10 - 2012-04-20 03:19:44 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
I would think most of the range bonuses on BS missile hulls were more aimed at torp use than cruise, or is there a reason why one would not use torps on a widow?


You can yes, but I find torps are very limited as they don't do that well agasint anything else other than another battleship. Cruise missiles give a bit more flexibility with the T2 Precision missiles.

yk