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I do but sadly, i don't thing that vision will be realized for quite some time.

I think the best way forward is to iterate on the existing content and keep it all on a single "shard".

/sigh. Probably not. But I see a lot of promise, a few small ideas - but nothing solid happening from CCP and this thread is now 216 or 218 pages (More if you lose the trolling responses like above)

If we could have a dedicate team - not a 4 or 5 man team - but a full project / game team we may get something awesome developed and before another 5 or 6 years have passed. No disrespect intended to Team Avatar, but you guys seem to be left mostly without plan, guidance or a big vision and you have a lot of other cool things you seem to be busy with as well.

I can't help but feel that a small exploration site, or a 10 person room is just going to be awesome for us - but a death knell in terms of the rest of the game's population.

Edit: Off topic part removed, CCP Phantom

Where did you obtain this information? I would like to review it assuming that CCP has released statistics supporting your statement.

Or is this just your impression or feeling based on reading player forum posts/threads?

Anti-WiS players don't have anything to worry about. Their fears can be laid to rest. There won't ever be any WiS Ambulation implemented in Eve Online. The song and dance routine by CCP in this thread is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Hilmar's statement - "Watch what they do, not what they say." - is a very good philosophy to go by. I understand now why the majority of true Pro-WiS players have left this thread.

CCP has no plan to implement areas where multiple Avatars can interact. The Captains Quarters was specifically implemented to facilitate the acquisition of more money through the NEX STORE and MT, nothing more. CCP's blatant refusal to speculate on any future plans regarding multiple Avatar interaction, the continued lack of information regarding future content, their inability to specify a timeline or show any current basic programing work speaks for itself.

Team Avatar is just a name, nothing more. It's a dog and pony show, some PR fluff created to placate a percentage of the player base. The little bit of Avatar content they do release was already created previously with Incarna. This whole thread has been ruled by and over-run by Anti-WiS players trolling Pro-WiS players from the very start. This thread portrays a perfect example of futility by true Pro-WiS players which has been a colossal waste of time. With that realization, I now say this to the very few remaining true Pro-WiS players still posting in this thread, don't waste any more of your precious time dealing with this facade. Your time is better spent doing much more enjoyable things.

Do you know how much content is in the client that I have never use? I'd be surprised if it was more than 50%.
When you say substantial, is that more substantial than say Apocrypha? Can you point me to some hard facts?

Unless it is really substantial, I don't see a problem with people having to download and update stuff they don't like. That's how EVE is. You can't/won't use it all.

Indeed, it might become a problem when it approaches that size, but I don't think that even the 2008 version/vision of WiS would come close to being a separate game, at least not one I would be willing to pay extra for.

But ideally, the whole universe will be Free-to-Play and modular by the time this becomes an issue.

Also, I would like to replace your FiS for sandbox, because EVE is a more than just FiS for me. That way I would be able to say that WiS is just another color of sand and not a divergence from the core gameplay.

Ah, yes, then I guess what you want would indeed be better as a Dust514 like thing. I also see no harm in having seperate games (although I would like to be able to play a single character in those games), but while the focus for the EVE part of New Eden should indeed remain spaceships (at least until technology advances to the point that this whole discussion basicly becomes pointless) I also see no harm in adding a bit of avatar stuff in EVE

....Hmm, or maybe the social aspects of avatar gameplay should be a something that all games in the New Eden universe could have as an (optional) addon. Dust and EVE players hanging out together in the same enviroment...hmmm....I think I'd like that approach too.

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Hold on - all these corpses look the same - whats the point in all that avatar creation stuff, if everyone looks the same when they're dead.

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I have the right to voice my opinion about this thread and it's topic, but I find it amusing that you supposedly have me blocked yet quickly stalk my posting. Doesn't matter, you're definitely a master of subtle manipulation and misrepresentation which I commend you on. I especially like how you advocate that WiS content should definitely be developed and implemented..................not as an integral part of Eve Online but purely as a completely separate game. Kudo's to you.


A number of players? Forcing? WiS content not Eve? I'd continue to find more statements and ask you to provide proof to back up your assertions but quite frankly I believe it would just be another exorcize in futility.



Ahhh, must be a coincidence that Sigurd Sig Hansen (Newly Created Alt) just happens to post right afterwards in all the same threads.

In answer to your troll questions, No. I'm just tired of dealing with your crap.