Crime & Punishment

And there's a nice reference to the character face that was just mentioned.

He didn't say you had to conform to anything, he only said that you are not playing the game he thinks it should be played, in his opinion.

Don't be fooled into believing there is only one reason people pick on "carebears".. The careless bears can be just as tearful over loss as the most careful empire dweller - and if not for isk generating activities they would not have anything to fight with unless they bought all their isk by purchasing Plex.. sure some may do this .. but certainly not all.

My point is they would not attack the relatively defenseless miners in high sec if they didn't think it was fun.. heck, most of the time it's probably not fun for most of them .. so to solve the unfun aspect some groups have attempted to excite more folk about attacking miners in high sec by hosting event competitions and offering prizes.

Other players demonize all high sec miners by the (largely false) claim that most high sec miners are bots. Demonizing those you wish to hurt is a time honored sabre rattling tactic and a way of mitigating any possible guilty feelings.

PVPers will cringe at my suggestion that they are "roll playing" - but many do just that... making up all manner of weird sceneios (declaring "JIhad") by which they can explain their bend toward suicide ganking of the defenseless.. whether they want to admit it or not roll play happens as often among pvpers as carebears.

Lastly, don't underestimate the financial benefit that killing off competition provides; if you have a stockpile of minerals stored in Jita and wait for the right moment to sell you can beef up your earnings by reducing the supply temporarily.. There is also some speculation that some sponsers of hulk ganking events actually spend their time before the event purchasing cheap hulks or just manufacturing them in preperation for the thousands of hulk "buyers" about to be created.

The bottom line is there are many of people with many various play styles in this sandbox called EVE. You are not going to be able to change that anymore than you'll be able to convince real life wackos they are wrong. don't try. Just adapt and and enjoy.

I, too, love seeing hte beautiful 0.01 isk pileups in the market.

WHEN will it ever enter your tiny skulls that EVE is a SANDBOX and was never designed nor intended to be an exclusively PvP game. A Dangerous Sandbox.

Are you absolutely 100% SURE about that ?

^This. I'd also add that they bring their friends along (in the form of Orca alts, or in the case of high sec griefers remote rep alts) because they can't pick on the cripple without help...

Funny how Eve Online is a sandbox game, meaning that it is what you choose to make of it, and yet some folks think that unless you're playing their way you're doing it wrong. Stunned that someone working on their doctoral thesis hasn't studied the various sociopaths in this game...

Edit: Yes, Eve Online is a game. Yes, it's just space pixels. But when you invest time in any activity the things that you obtain from that investment have intrinsic value. Although I only get pissed off, at myself, when I lose a ship to a stupid mistake I can understand the peeps who go mental when someone suicide ganks their mining barge. I can also understand the peeps that get off on doing the ganking, just don't understand how they can rationalize what they are doing by saying "it's just a game". I'd have a lot more respect for them if they'd just come out and say "I like picking on peeps that can't fight back". At least it's honest...

Second Edit: For a group of peeps who seem to thrive on tears they sure do cry a lot when CCP does something to make beating up the cripples harder...

I'll just leave this here. W space is the same as null (so you're consenting to PVP just by being there) and at any time a corpie or his could have decloaked and powned me...

Because it's like I'm jaws and the little hulks are the dumb teenagers swimming around in deep water. Dun na dun na dun na dun na dun na dun na dun na

They also fly really expensive ships and fit them so badly that they are asking, no demanding that I gank them. I really don't want to gank them but they act like complete jerks and morons and don't bother to protect themselves. One time I was flying around high sec and this guy kept posting his deadpace inty fit while sitting 0 m/s and Darwin appeared to me and ordered that I gank him immediately.

Point. Sometimes peeps beg to get ganked, and by doing so you are providing a valuable service

I was thinking on this as I was extracting my pod from deep in syndicate space last night. Maybe it was the self-rage for falling into a really mediocre gate trap, or maybe it was the exhaustion, but I started thinking down some paths I hadn't followed previously.

I suspect that at least to a degree, the rage against miners and industrialists is policy more than it is pleasure. I know - crazy, right? Hear me out.

What do Goons, and all the other deep-space alliances do, in addition to blowing up everyone who isn't blue? They mine, and they do industry - build ships and the stuff that goes on ships. What is their greatest source of competition? the mindless, shapeless, undirected mass of hi-sec miners and industrialists. Alliance mining and development is far more directed than its hi-sec counterpart, but it can't easily compete with the sheer numbers. How do you fix that? You blow 'em up.

Oh, sure, there could be competition on the grounds of cost and efficiency, but if you've got lots of guns, and lot of people who like USING those guns, why bother? Just gank the hell out of 'em! It's fun, it supports industrial policy, and indirectly at least makes alliances more profitable.

Ganking will never erase the competition, but it can keep it pruned back enough to make a workable fiscal edge.

Add to that that lots of folks will see the ganking, and not care about policy - they'll just copy what the cool kids are doing.


Or maybe I was so tired I was halucinating.