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How to find the corp that is right for you.

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#21 - 2012-02-20 02:26:56 UTC  |  Edited by: NightCrawler 85
Honestly if your not looking for a PVP corp you dont have to worry much about voice at all,and even for corporations who use voice a lot you are most of the time only requiered to be able to listen.

Most corporations will understand it if you are in a situation where you simply cant afford a mic,feel uncomfterbale with speaking to strangers or are mute. Just make sure you explain these things in advance so they are aware and can tell you if any of their rules would requiere you to be able to talk and it will be fine Smile

Personally uilty of this next one.
One thing you might run into is that people sometimes forget to keep an eye on chats while they are on voice,so if there is a major discussion going on just poke them or spam the voice chat until they notice Blink
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-02-20 10:18:45 UTC
Trik Eriker wrote:
Someone mentioned in their post something I hadn't seen talked about before and wondered how big a part it plays in choosing a corp. Voice communications.

I am not able to use voice communications....well....I can listen to voice comm but can't use them myself. How big a problem will that be for corps? I mean is it a deal breaker? Note that I am not interested in pvp corps or pirate corps, just general easy going social corps.

I ask because while most of the other stuff mentioned in the guide has crossed my mind to some degree or other, it never crossed my mind at all that one of my own limitations might have an impact on what corp I pick...or rather....what corp might pick me.


Voice comms are widely used in EVE, but in generally listening to comms only will suffice. Even in PvP situations usually listening in only is enough, usually the fleet utilize battle-comms chain of command, this means only the Fleet commander and some dedicated people (scouts, target caller, secondairy FC, logi FC etc.) speak, the general fleet can speak (if asked for) but in general they will use fleet chat as a way to communicate to each other / broadcast system for general things like need for repairs etc.

And like NightCrawler said, other the PvP voice comms are just extra. Yes mining fleets can be very very nice if you can talk to eachother, else the whole fleet falls asleep. But generally you won't be frowned upon if you can't speak but can listen. Also agree with NightCrawler, when people use voice comms as a group chat will be missed as the majority of the group will just speak to each other, if that happens the best way is to pick the guy that leads the conversation / is highest in rank and make him aware that you are typing in chat window while listening to the comms. Also some corps that use voice comms actually use the comms for the running of corp using it for instance for regular meetings and discussions on the corp (not referring to our master scheme of planning for 3 days about how we are going to leave the alliance and in which fashion we want to go outP )

TL:DR Voice comms sometimes is really needed, but even in PvP unless your the one calling the shot listening in CAN be enough, outside of PvP any use of voice comms is just an extra, but listening in to others can help you a lot.

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Ryu Deawon-Song
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-02-20 11:31:41 UTC
Thoughtful and informative posts, everyone. Thanks much. I am still getting my head wrapped around this incredible game - and now I gotta add the subtleties of corp recruitment etiquette to my list of concerns?P

Seriously though, I get it. I've been an active team player in various online games, and I completely understand how important it is to spend your valuable free time with people you enjoy. I look forward to making some new friends in EVE.

When I'm a bit more comfy, I'll certainly use some of this advise when considering a corp.

"Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere."   - Carl Sagan

Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#24 - 2012-02-20 11:44:30 UTC
As a suggestion, if the corp recruiter doesn't seem to look for reasons to reject you, you probably don't want to join.

If they aren't picky, they are full of less than desirables. You probably won't enjoy it(unless you like you corp chat full of continual obscenities). Even actively recruiting corps should be screening pretty heavily based on both personality and how much you bring to the corp(even newbies can bring alot, if they are motivated) and no one likes dragging around dead weight.

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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#25 - 2012-02-20 11:46:16 UTC
Ryu Deawon-Song wrote:

When I'm a bit more comfy, I'll certainly use some of this advise when considering a corp.

Find a corp ASAP, eve is an easy game to get stuck in a rut with NPC corps, and its really not very much fun to play it alone.

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Agrippa Jaynara
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-02-20 17:25:56 UTC
Thanks for making this guide, I have yet to join a good corp. Hopefully I'll find one soon.
Trik Eriker
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-02-20 18:20:19 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Ryu Deawon-Song wrote:

When I'm a bit more comfy, I'll certainly use some of this advise when considering a corp.

Find a corp ASAP, eve is an easy game to get stuck in a rut with NPC corps, and its really not very much fun to play it alone.



I sort of agree with you here....it is easy to get stuck in a rut, feel alone. And while you do want to find a corp as soon as possible again there are many pitfalls to avoid. It's really a fine line....join one too quickly and you end up unhappy....take too long to join one and you get stuck in a rut.

I think that's why the public channel for a corp is so important. It lets you have some interactions with possible future corp mates. You don't feel alone out in space. At the same time though you haven't locked yourself in yet and are free to see if the corp is for you and you for them.

I have had many people message me and ask me to join their corp, but when I ask for their public channel they say they don't have one. To me that is an X against them....not necessarily a deal breaker but definitely not a good thing. I message them back to let me know when they have a public channel.

The other thing someone mentioned was the screening process, which I believe a public channel is part of. There should be an interview process, an application...something to let you know that this is a serious corp (by that I mean not just whoever can be picked up in the space lanes). Between public channels, interviews, applications.....everyone should know what they are getting into by joining a corp.

I have been on a public channel for a corp for....maybe three or four days now. Sometimes its quiet but other times there are lots of people on. I get to meet and interact with people, check out personalities, they get to check me out, we joke, I ask for help and suggestions, things are clarified. I figure a few more days or a week and I will ask for an interview and seek admission. A much better experience for everyone involved and I will actually feel like I belong there...that they picked me because of me, rather than just another noobie flying by and someone thought "oh another noob we can add to our corps."
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#28 - 2012-02-20 18:31:56 UTC
Trik Eriker wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Ryu Deawon-Song wrote:

When I'm a bit more comfy, I'll certainly use some of this advise when considering a corp.

Find a corp ASAP, eve is an easy game to get stuck in a rut with NPC corps, and its really not very much fun to play it alone.



I sort of agree with you here....it is easy to get stuck in a rut, feel alone. And while you do want to find a corp as soon as possible again there are many pitfalls to avoid. It's really a fine line....join one too quickly and you end up unhappy....take too long to join one and you get stuck in a rut.

I think that's why the public channel for a corp is so important. It lets you have some interactions with possible future corp mates. You don't feel alone out in space. At the same time though you haven't locked yourself in yet and are free to see if the corp is for you and you for them.

I have had many people message me and ask me to join their corp, but when I ask for their public channel they say they don't have one. To me that is an X against them....not necessarily a deal breaker but definitely not a good thing. I message them back to let me know when they have a public channel.

The other thing someone mentioned was the screening process, which I believe a public channel is part of. There should be an interview process, an application...something to let you know that this is a serious corp (by that I mean not just whoever can be picked up in the space lanes). Between public channels, interviews, applications.....everyone should know what they are getting into by joining a corp.

I have been on a public channel for a corp for....maybe three or four days now. Sometimes its quiet but other times there are lots of people on. I get to meet and interact with people, check out personalities, they get to check me out, we joke, I ask for help and suggestions, things are clarified. I figure a few more days or a week and I will ask for an interview and seek admission. A much better experience for everyone involved and I will actually feel like I belong there...that they picked me because of me, rather than just another noobie flying by and someone thought "oh another noob we can add to our corps."

Join the public recruiting channels for corps. most will let youhang out and chat with their members who also hang out in that channel so every gets to know each other. A good corp wants its member to get a feel for you, and visa versa.

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#29 - 2012-04-19 09:19:20 UTC
Since this thread is about to get lost again i tought i would bump it back up. As always i wish the new players and recruits out there the best of luck,and i hope that more people will be able to add in more advice and things to look out for that is not mentioned in any of the above posts Smile
ISD Athechu
ISD STAR
ISD Alliance
#30 - 2012-06-26 01:01:50 UTC
Good Guide. Added to EVE New Citizens Q&A Resources

ISD Athechu

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