EVE General Discussion

EDIT: I didn't add in a lot of detail initially on purpose, just to see who truly understood what I was talking about and who wasn't capable of anything other than simple knee-jerk reactions. I've expanded on a few points:

In no particular order:

Interdictors-

Why they are bad: completely obsoletes an entire class of ships- Interceptors. Provides instant gratification w/ bubbles, invalidates/reduces need for static bubbles.

Interceptors shouldn't be relegated to lowsec for tackling. They should be the primary means of tackling targets, particularly in 0.0. They should be the foundation for tackle that large 0.0 fleets are built upon. Interdictors and their bubbles provide too much "push button" capability. They make it too easy, remove too much skill. Anyone who doesn't want them to go away is simply using them as a crutch because they can't get the job done without them. Note- this doesn't affect deployable bubbles.

Jump Freighters-

Why they are bad: ruins the entire concept of a vulnerable logistics chain. War is about logistics. Remove that from the equation and you diminish the gameplay of Eve.

Warp to zero-

Why it's bad: almost too numerous to list- radically reduces the relative size of the galaxy, removes speed differential between ship classes for traveling, removes risk, damages/reduces the effectiveness of regional markets, reduces trading viability as a profession.

A simple fix- make gates act like bubbles do now, for any *incoming* ship- 15km bubble zone, all ships stop on the edge. Make as many bookmarks and "instas" as you like, it won't help anything. Ships warping *away* from gates are not affected by the nearby gate.

Jump bridges-

Why they are bad: mitigates the scale of the galaxy, promotes blob warfare. When something can be used with little or no consequence, it's bad. Jump Bridges, if they remain in the game, should be prohibitively expensive and only used under the most dire of circumstances, or when a distinct tactical advantages presents itself and outweighs the enormous costs of using it.

Titans-

Why they are bad: over 2000 of them in game, no upkeep cost, little to no risk to deploy, etc. etc. Titans never had any sort of self limiting factors designed into them. Even POSes are better designed than Titans are. Add upkeep costs to Titans just like POSes have, only at greater rates. Any unfueled Titan is automatically dead in the water and all modules offlined. It's not that hard to figure out CCP. The core game mechanics already exist. Simply apply POS design to Titans.

Moon goo-

Why it's bad: ISK printing is bad, mmmkay?

Moon goo is the new T2 BPOs. Back when there was nothing like invention, cartels held all of Eve in a vice like grip, price fixing and exploiting the player base. Exactly what the owners of Tech moons do today. The answer is to put the power into the hands of the players once again. I'm all for real estate being profitable to hold by 0.0 alliances, but there needs to be a system in place that involves the players as a critical component of that space being productive. No players, no money. There needs to be a combination of prime location + lots of players = cash. Right now the last part is missing.

Feel free to add your own.

You are blatantly wrong.

The worst design change in the history of EVE was nerfing Myrm drone bandwidth down to 75mbit/s.

This has affected all areas of gameplay, from drone trade volumes to more boring PVP, basically all the things that are wrong in New Eden were caused by this mistake.

What ya smokin bro?

I agree with everything except this one:



They do not fullfill the same role. Interdictors are good for catching gangs of large ships.

Inteceptors are also good for catching small stuff. In lowsec (FW) they are also very valuable because you cannot use bubbles.

Having security status on systems.
CONCORD.

2/10

The stupid is strong in this one.


Jesus H. Christ

Not updating your clone used to have serious consequences.... like losing all your sp down to 90k.

CCP Y U NO KEEP THAT?!

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Agree with all except interdictors.

so that would be +0.8

You don't like warp to zero? So if you need to get somewhere faraway fast and u gotta warp to 15 k from every gate and approach in every single time? Thats your idea of a fun game????