EVE General Discussion

Did anyone actually read the book?

If so you'd be the first CCP employee to ever read a full thread.

What the CCP team has failed to realize is that social pressure is very powerful. If a player if under threat of being branded, it will be a powerful deterent to the impulse of botting. It will also protect CEOs from recruiting them and getting burned...

Clearly identified targets to hunt, grief, wardec and otherwise hound relentlessly helping to reduce the chances of them returning to botting activities.

Botters are the sex offenders of EVE. No peace and no privacy.

Oh dear. Do you really believe that we, the community, could pull the wool over the eyes of CCP regarding the intentions of hunting of identified botters? Do you think that I spoiled some sort of subscriber-created ruse intended to fool CCP into taking a particular action?

Let's at least be truthful in this conversation.

I have to say that i did locate some AFK miners/Botters in WH and well this killmail will explain ithttp://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Ryno+Caval#kills
they are seriously a pain since they pull so much from belts and leave legit miners searching for ore but to benifit from them all i say is dont ban them just make the game harder for them by making them auto -10 secutity status so they can be openly attacked and make some kind of badge or signature showing that they have been caught cause other pilotts will weed them out and make AFK/ Botting more difficult i mean an ORCA getting destroyed by a lone T1 Geared Thrasher shows how botting will be mitigated by other players as long as they can be identified pilots that want fair gameplay will hunt them down. Plus players who buy from botters dont know weather or not the items they are buying were cause of botters or not so i dont think it is fair to penalize them nor the people who kill and loot botters shouldnt be penalized either also place a bounty on botters automatically will make them a good target for anyone to remove them from the game. i think most of these things will relieve the botter issue and make the game more fair and who knows there may be a botter hunting Corps (or a few) that pop up to make benifits of this.

Whilst it would give players some indication of the success of the bot detection (from the numbers of tagged players they see) and an opportunity to censor such players, I don't believe it would really serve much purpose beryond that towards the objective of eliminating the practice.
The primary deterrent will be in how effective your detection methods are and in the confiscation of the proceeds of botting.
If that is good and accurate that should suffice.

If I see a player and the way they act on occasion...and later find out they were banned as a bot, I would be able to more easily identify future botters more accurately if I see others with similar behaviors. This may help detect other bots faster.

On the market side, seeing .01 isking market bots banned would do a good deal to clam frustrated traders who hate the .01 isk game. While it won't stop the .01 game... it'll assure players that the remaining .01 isking competition is other legitimate players and that they aren't trying to compete against a 23/7 market bot when their order gets overtaken almost instantly.

At its core, seeing players get punished for botting is just comforting in general. If you could post not only their name but how much ISK you deleted from them, it would be all the more rewarding. Just as some players love seeing high-value kill mails on players acting dumb... seeing high-value ban-mails from players botting would draw the same crowd...and probably go a long way to discouraging botting from players who might be considering it.

I would even take it a step further and allow CCP to bio mass offending characters caught botting and flagging any other characters on the same account. This way it would instantly remove the botter out of the business and for the folks that want to give the criminals a chance to rehabilitate, well they(the botter) can make a new character and decide a new career path to pursue which would give them a bit of time whilst retraining to think upon their previous ways, flagged of course.