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What will CCP do about Jita burning? Listen to the answer on this podcast....
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Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#81 - 2012-04-18 23:37:20 UTC
Sepia Curria wrote:
Hm... Doing something to specifically cause either lag or server crash is a bannable offense, has been for quite some time, and continually enforced by CCP. How would they know? Because with any halfway decent programmer, when the system crashes they get a nice little report of what was going on so they can fix the crash. Just like how CCP finds RMT's, and people who buy isk. CCP isn't stupid guys.

Like if you were to jettison 5k corpses to blot out someone's overview and cause their client (or server) to lag, that is banable.

But it is extremely unlikely that there will be a (lawl) alliance wide ban happening. The server will crash, CCP will announce that said action is a bannable offense, give out warning, and if people continue to proceed, will be banned. Same as with any other situation. CCP is not going to step up and protect Jita, they are going to protect the integrity of their game (ie not allowing people to cause the game/system to lag/fail intentionally).


Again you're assuming that we would go out of our way to crash a system for the hell of it. The filth still don't get it. Taking Jita offline would make it impossible for us to murder you all. We want to cause as much misery and destruction as possible in Eve Online, not staring at the login screen.

As for your second part there. CCP has allowed nodes to crash and degrade plenty of times. There's not a whole lot they can do about players going where they will without turning Eve into WoW. That's why they implemented TiDi, so that when players are doing things that hammer the hardware it doesn't take the game offline.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#82 - 2012-04-18 23:39:19 UTC
Pohbis wrote:

Nobody cares that the reason the alliance does it, is because they are butthurt teenagers, and not because they aren't lolRPing.


Eve-Online's pubbie population has proven time and time again that they're willing to go the extra mile when it comes to raging about goons. Some of them are even willing to try ruining a goon's life outside of the game.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#83 - 2012-04-18 23:40:01 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Sepia Curria wrote:
Hm... Doing something to specifically cause either lag or server crash is a bannable offense, has been for quite some time, and continually enforced by CCP. How would they know? Because with any halfway decent programmer, when the system crashes they get a nice little report of what was going on so they can fix the crash. Just like how CCP finds RMT's, and people who buy isk. CCP isn't stupid guys.

Like if you were to jettison 5k corpses to blot out someone's overview and cause their client (or server) to lag, that is banable.

But it is extremely unlikely that there will be a (lawl) alliance wide ban happening. The server will crash, CCP will announce that said action is a bannable offense, give out warning, and if people continue to proceed, will be banned. Same as with any other situation. CCP is not going to step up and protect Jita, they are going to protect the integrity of their game (ie not allowing people to cause the game/system to lag/fail intentionally).


Again you're assuming that we would go out of our way to crash a system for the hell of it. The filth still don't get it. Taking Jita offline would make it impossible for us to murder you all. We want to cause as much misery and destruction as possible in Eve Online, not staring at the login screen.

As for your second part there. CCP has allowed nodes to crash and degrade plenty of times. There's not a whole lot they can do about players going where they will without turning Eve into WoW. That's why they implemented TiDi, so that when players are doing things that hammer the hardware it doesn't take the game offline.

Ahh, TiDi, it is going to be so much fun watching freighters pop in slow motion on the 28th.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2012-04-18 23:43:11 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:

Ahh, TiDi, it is going to be so much fun watching freighters pop in slow motion on the 28th.


CTRL-Click freighter victim, go make coffee, come back press F1, tab out and work on code for a half hour, tab back in watch first five minutes of freighter exploding, tab out more code, tab back in half hour later watch concord blap me, etc...

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#85 - 2012-04-19 00:14:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Pohbis
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Pohbis wrote:

Nobody cares that the reason the alliance does it, is because they are butthurt teenagers, and not because they aren't lolRPing.


Eve-Online's pubbie population has proven time and time again that they're willing to go the extra mile when it comes to raging about goons. Some of them are even willing to try ruining a goon's life outside of the game.
If it wasn't for the fact that half of EVE watched said Goon start the meta-mud-throwing by encouraging people to do things that would kinda ruin another players life outside of the game. I'd kinda care for your argument.

If the guy never considered that leading a bunch of teenagers and adult internet spaceship captains – in a game that promotes what EVE promotes – would turn on him when behaving like he did. Then I think whatever college he graduated from owes him some tuition fees back.

Maybe now we can go back to the topic. A bunch of EVE players playing EVE how they want. Who cares what their real life motives are.
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#86 - 2012-04-19 00:23:58 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:

Some of them are even willing to try ruining a goon's life outside of the game.


Now how would they have come up with such an idea.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2012-04-19 00:25:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
Pohbis wrote:

If the guy never considered that leading a bunch of teenagers and adult internet spaceship captains – in a game that promotes what EVE promotes – would turn on him when behaving like he did. Then I think whatever college he graduated from owes him some tuition fees back.


Pubbies have been crapping on goons harder than any other group of players, aside from Russians, far longer than that instance of Mitten's drunken assholery. Calls to mass ban us over trivial nonsense have been going on for over four years now.

But I agree let's get this topic back on track. Predicting a typical CCP-like unexpected bug in TiDi allows us to blap an ISD member's Polaris frigate resulting in the GMs reacting in a completely over the top manner.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#88 - 2012-04-19 00:27:22 UTC
Pohbis wrote:
Nobody cares that the reason the alliance does it, is because they are butthurt teenagers, and not because they aren't lolRPing.


Burn Jita was originally going to happen to celebrate Mittani getting >10000 votes for CSM.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2012-04-19 00:27:37 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:

Some of them are even willing to try ruining a goon's life outside of the game.


Now how would they have come up with such an idea.


I know right? Most of the player's in this game can barely even figure out the correct usage of punctuation. How one of them managed to find the phone number of a certain goon's ex-employer and call them up to crap on him is beyond me.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#90 - 2012-04-19 00:46:52 UTC
No one will save you.

No angels will come down from on high and hold your hand.

No god will strike down your enemies.

You want to be saved? Then save yourselves.
Justice Comes
Doomheim
#91 - 2012-04-19 00:48:15 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Another threads insinuating blanket bans of every player in an alliance a particular player or group of players dislike. Why does high-sec pubbie filth continually imagine that 0.0 alliances are hive minds where every player does exactly the same thing. Many members of the Clusterfuck Coalition will be in Jita strangling the system, not all of us will be; but let's just go ahead and ban them all anyway. Collateral damage am I right? Its okay if it happens to people who happen to play in an alliance I dislike for nebulous reasons I can't quantify.


What a strange, little man.

Most annoying thing of the week: You failed to dock/jump because you are cloaked (in your Deep Space Transport).
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#92 - 2012-04-19 00:49:45 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:

How one of them managed to find the phone number of a certain goon's ex-employer and call them up to crap on him is beyond me.


Maybe you should have a talk with Jade Constantine. Seems he was / is in the same predicament and can offer advice on how to handle it.

Also would be nice if people who think this kind of crap is acceptable to get their computers taken away from them. They should get the same treatment as a convicted hacker who get's thrown off of the Net for a couple of years.
Maybe then a sense of reality might seep in again into their pityfull lives.
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#93 - 2012-04-19 00:50:20 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
But I agree let's get this topic back on track. Predicting a typical CCP-like unexpected bug in TiDi allows us to blap an ISD member's Polaris frigate resulting in the GMs reacting in a completely over the top manner.
That certainly is a possibility as well.

My guess is, they'll re-instate the 1200-or-something hard cap on people in local, which they did back when they were testing the new nodes and mechanics of having chat and other stuff on a different node than the rest of the solar system.

Then, traffic jam. Nobody leaves, nobody new enters.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#94 - 2012-04-19 01:54:17 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:

How one of them managed to find the phone number of a certain goon's ex-employer and call them up to crap on him is beyond me.


Maybe you should have a talk with Jade Constantine. Seems he was / is in the same predicament and can offer advice on how to handle it.


Because two wrongs makes a right am I right?

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#95 - 2012-04-19 02:10:02 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:

Because two wrongs makes a right am I right?


Nope. That is what you might like to imply I am saying.

I personally think anyone pushing it that far should get locked up permamnently, because I see no reason to let such people participate in a society they clearly don't fit in or want to fit in.

Regardless of whom they target. As soon as you go over that line your balls should get nailed to the wall as hard as possible by the law.

Anyone threatening to afflict real life actions towards another person over or through a game isn't only a threat towards that person, but towards anyone by whom he or she might feel wronged at some point.
Lock up, throw away the key if they refuse to work on changing.

This applies towards the ones targetting Jade just as much as the ones targetting Mittens in real life.

I hope you see clearly where I am comming from.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#96 - 2012-04-19 02:11:46 UTC
Yes its quite clear now.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2012-04-19 02:13:07 UTC
Xanthia Grint wrote:
Protesting in jita is one thing, crashing the server non stop is considered an attack on CCP itself, not eve online and by law can be dealt with easily enuff with a alliance wide ban.


"It's perfectly ok if we use Jita as a political prop, but if the big bad goonies do it then mommy CCP has to do something~~~~!"

Abloobloobloo. Grow a pair.

10 days left, scrubs. Cry while you can, cause in come the 28th, there will be too many threads crying about this to be heard.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#98 - 2012-04-19 02:20:19 UTC
Xython wrote:
Xanthia Grint wrote:
Protesting in jita is one thing, crashing the server non stop is considered an attack on CCP itself, not eve online and by law can be dealt with easily enuff with a alliance wide ban.


"It's perfectly ok if we use Jita as a political prop, but if the big bad goonies do it then mommy CCP has to do something~~~~!"

Abloobloobloo. Grow a pair.

10 days left, scrubs. Cry while you can, cause in come the 28th, there will be too many threads crying about this to be heard.


Doublethink is a critical component of the pubbie psyche.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#99 - 2012-04-19 02:26:25 UTC
so anyone ACTUALLY listen to it and give a timestamp to the part where he answers?

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
Elyssa MacLeod
Doomheim
#100 - 2012-04-19 02:30:46 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Pohbis wrote:

Nobody cares that the reason the alliance does it, is because they are butthurt teenagers, and not because they aren't lolRPing.


Eve-Online's pubbie population has proven time and time again that they're willing to go the extra mile when it comes to raging about goons. Some of them are even willing to try ruining a goon's life outside of the game.


Especially when they start the ruining themselves?
Mittens brought what he brought upon himself bud, and even the slides themselves were cyberbullying lol
fail defense is fail

GM Homonoia: Suicide ganks are a valid and viable tactic in EVE.

Where is your God now carebear?