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You can only gank once every 15 minutes now?

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Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2012-04-18 15:46:10 UTC
Brusanan wrote:
Helios Black wrote:
Suddenly Boom wrote:
Awesome, so the only way to gank more than 4 times an hour is to have multiple ganking characters. You can't board a ship in space while on global criminal countdown, so orca doesn't work.

What about concord, Is it even possible to get concord out of the belt anymore?


So the "global criminal cooldown" is finally working properly and stopping you from avoiding its repercussions and you're upset?

HAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's not working. CCP just declared it as an exploit because they can't be bothered to make it work.


CCP tends to do that. "What, there's a game mechanic being used? It's making people cry? Exploit!" Of course, with DecShield they did a complete 180* and made it legal.

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Kale Eledar
Venerated Industries
#62 - 2012-04-18 22:47:00 UTC
I don't know why anyone bothers including "risk" in suicide ganking discussions. Most who suicide gank have figured out a way to do it profitably, and the ones who don't do it for profit don't care what the risks are. It's a red herring argument. Sure, the risk is non-zero, but it's also absurdist to claim there is equal risk. It simply doesn't factor into the finally blow enough to be a meaningful point, especially since being a ganker is obviously more than just about numbers and profit.
Also, if we're going to use isk to calculate risk, then ANY activity's risk approaches zero the exponentially richer you get.
I find suicide ganking hilarious and find all gameplay styles valid if the rules allow. But please, don't conflate risk with chance.

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VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#63 - 2012-04-24 10:04:36 UTC
Suddenly Boom wrote:
Parking an orca next to your gank targets then warping in the ganker and jumping into the destroyer next to the target, will that work? No need to warp, you enter the ship next to the target. Or is there something i am missing?


Not sure your question has been answered, but I just ganked somebody and tried having my Orca pilot eject another ship for my -10 alt, so I could finish them off and a notification popped up saying something about the ship I'm attemping to board is now evidence involved in a crime yada yada yada and wouldn't let me board the ship. My Orca could re-scoop the ship though.

So I guess now I'll need start a new -10 so I can gank people like I use to, "pay to win" formula is working for CCP.

no more games... it's real this time!!!

KSbrain
the Independent Gaming Corporation
#64 - 2012-04-24 10:55:27 UTC  |  Edited by: KSbrain
I love ganking, its my way of making isk. I have made meany billions of isk doing it.

To this change i say: Thank you CCP!

this for a few reasons:

1. More ppl are going to mine so ship prices will go down (hopefully).

2. More ppl will feel save so more high value targets.

So more profit!

Oow and to those crying about this i say you guys where getting out of control and giving gankers a bad name HTFU!

Every gank i have done i have lost the ship and the modules i have never unfitted them, i have never warped away and i have never ganked while under GCC so stop crying and adapt.
Fireflyb1
Walden 2.0
#65 - 2012-04-24 13:38:01 UTC
Honestly, even as someone who's experimented with highsec suicide ganking a little bit, CCP should be aware that they have FULL rights (both morally and legally) to go ahead and nerf suicide ganking to whatever extreme they desire. It's technically "not supposed to happen" (lol some people with thick skullz might think CCP encourages it), so if I were a developer, I'd just nerf it so far into the ground that suicide gankers wouldn't be able to undock for 30 minutes after killing in highsec (or something like that :D).
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#66 - 2012-04-24 13:57:23 UTC
As a recently-recovering carebear, I find myself somewhat perplexed - OK, Ganking is mostly silly and largely pointless, but so what? I've had my mining alt ganked a couple times - It's not a particularly traumatic event. Mostly, it's a blip on the profit spreadsheet.*

Of course, I don't fly what I can't afford to lose, so maybe that's the problem with folks - They forget that mining is suposed to be a profit-generating enterprise, and fly ships much too expensive for the state of their wallet. If I were sitting on a larger wallet, I might fly larger hulls, but I make plenty enough profit now, with my easily-replacable hulls. The mining is only to top off my wallet or supply materials, anyway - it's there to feed my main.

Anyway, the frequency of ganking is hugely exagerated - by both sides. Gankers gank away as fast as they can, but even at their most active, only manage to infest a small number of systems, and impact a tiny fraction of the miners. Miners grind away, and largely are left alone, no matter how tempting a target their hulls are. It's really a side-show. Entertaining, sure, but it's not even remotely a center-ring event.



*Unless done in a particularly sloppy manner, in which case it's an opportunity to mock the hell out of someone.

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Rond Dorlezahn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2012-04-24 18:28:22 UTC
This thread is funny.

"Carebear miners whine to CCP, so we gank them!"

-Gankers whine on the forums, loudest of all

"CCP is making this game into WoW!"

-Gankers continue to promote blatantly, stupidly obvious tactics that promote such a change

"Miners should understand the RISKS!"

-Gankers cannot handle the risk they now face
tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2012-04-25 18:00:39 UTC
Suddenly Boom wrote:
Awesome, so the only way to gank more than 4 times an hour is to have multiple ganking characters. You can't board a ship in space while on global criminal countdown, so orca doesn't work.

What about concord, Is it even possible to get concord out of the belt anymore?




hey Sudden, use another alt to draw Concord into the other belt so you can go after the prey in the belt you want with your main.
unless Concord decides to make your system like Tama and 175 of their ships humping the Tama/Nourvukaiken gate because of all those Caldari and Gallente FW war heroes. lol