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Ships/Modules So Useless We've Forgotten About Them

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Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#41 - 2012-04-18 18:00:15 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Adacia Calla wrote:
AEGIS or CIWS frigate.

Do it.

I'm beginning to like this idea, although it would be pretty difficult to balance properly.


Would pretty effectively end the reign of the drake.

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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#42 - 2012-04-18 18:47:30 UTC
The Navitas takes very little to build, has a 25% cargo space bonus on top of an already good cargo space for a frig, and remains agile enough to jump around rather quickly. I used them to cart materiel around in NPC 0.0 when I lived there all the time, why waste isk or minerals on a more expensive boat when the mining frigate will do the job faster for like 10% of the resource cost?
Parnasas
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-04-18 20:01:40 UTC
All of the t2 armor plates are completely useless. Why even bother with them when the meta 4 version offers the same hp bonus, is easier to fit and has less mass?
Tomyris Castagno
Doomheim
#44 - 2012-04-18 20:18:22 UTC
Parnasas wrote:
All of the t2 armor plates are completely useless. Why even bother with them when the meta 4 version offers the same hp bonus, is easier to fit and has less mass?


Because sometimes you want more mass.
Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
#45 - 2012-04-18 20:32:57 UTC
Mining frigs make good cyno ships, and try putting an auto-targeter on your next mission boat (assuming you have the spare high). Your inner lazy bastard will thank me.

Can't believe it hasn't been mentioned yet-- non-ECM ewar drones. I would also say cap batteries, but I've been known to put one on an MWD fit covops frig to help with long warps.
Perihelion Olenard
#46 - 2012-04-18 20:34:50 UTC
Parnasas wrote:
All of the t2 armor plates are completely useless. Why even bother with them when the meta 4 version offers the same hp bonus, is easier to fit and has less mass?

The only benefit of the tech 2 plates that I can see is that they are cheaper than rolled tungstens.
Helothane
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#47 - 2012-04-18 21:34:08 UTC
Celeritas 5k wrote:
I would also say cap batteries, but I've been known to put one on an MWD fit covops frig to help with long warps.


At Fanfest the devs broached the idea of cap batteries giving a ship a chance to reflect a neut back on the attacker. The idea was not terribly well received, as it would make ships whose primary offensive ability is neuting (e.g. Curse, Pilgrim, Blood Raider ships) be disproportionally hit hard by the effect. I have seen a pastebin that indicates that those effects are in place on one of the test servers (probably Chaos).
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#48 - 2012-04-18 22:05:51 UTC  |  Edited by: malcovas Henderson
I use the Bantam as can flipping bait.

I use my NPC corp Alt to mine into a can I jettisoned. When I warp in, they dont think I have aggression rights. I have the element of surprise.Pirate


o7
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#49 - 2012-04-19 02:02:03 UTC
Heavy TD drones are surprisingly effective at trashing the tracking on a BS. Woefully underutilised.

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2012-04-19 16:27:39 UTC
Celeritas 5k wrote:
Mining frigs make good cyno ships, and try putting an auto-targeter on your next mission boat (assuming you have the spare high). Your inner lazy bastard will thank me.

Can't believe it hasn't been mentioned yet-- non-ECM ewar drones. I would also say cap batteries, but I've been known to put one on an MWD fit covops frig to help with long warps.


I have one on my 2nd when i dual box anoms. Never have to worry about lockign targets for that guy. Its taken care of.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."   --H.L. Mencken
Lucas Schuyler
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-04-19 17:55:59 UTC
Mining Frigates make good disposable Cynos
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#52 - 2012-04-19 18:53:41 UTC
Lucas Schuyler wrote:
Mining Frigates make good disposable Cynos

So do the free noob ships. Good skills and a micro aux power core and you can fit a cyno.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#53 - 2012-04-19 18:56:11 UTC
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It would be nice if defender missile launchers could be fit to utility high slots.


They actually can be on anything that isn't a missileboat.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#54 - 2012-04-19 21:45:20 UTC
Dibblerette wrote:
Alberik wrote:
Auto Targeting System
Passive Targeter

The first is used by some missioners and some logistics, because it allows you to keep more targets locked.
Passive targeter is great for suicide ganks, as well as some niche PvP uses. I'd be pretty awesome if someone did alpha fleets with all passive targeters. Enemy Logi's would be worthless.


The auto-targeting system is also particularly good on T3 ships, which can only lock 5 targets naturally. An ATS II brings that up to 8.

For example, I occasionally run a quad web loki in incursions, and without the AT system I'd be a lot less effective in some sites. It's also quite handy for running frig heavy sites/missions.


The passive targeter is commonly used by suicide gankers. Unless you're watching for the scanner animation, you'll never know they've looked you over.

thhief ghabmoef
Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
#55 - 2012-04-19 23:55:33 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Lucas Schuyler wrote:
Mining Frigates make good disposable Cynos

So do the free noob ships. Good skills and a micro aux power core and you can fit a cyno.


Well yeah, but you need a MAPC and they're tight cargo (one of the benefits of a mining frig)
God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#56 - 2012-04-21 03:28:15 UTC
The only ship 100mm plates work on is the tristan. Let me tell you, my tristan kicks hardcore rifter ass. The t1 logi ships are way underutilized. Small rr dessies are pretty funny as well as rr AF gangs.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
Skorpynekomimi
#57 - 2012-04-21 04:07:08 UTC
Culmen wrote:
Varesk wrote:


the mining frigates are used by new players to mine. i know, its hard to believe, but they are used.


Yet unlike every other ship in the game, you can't find another use for it once you "Grow out of it"
Even if it's just to make a T2 ship.


Bursts apparently make good cyno ships.

Economic PVP
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#58 - 2012-04-21 10:42:11 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Culmen wrote:
Varesk wrote:


the mining frigates are used by new players to mine. i know, its hard to believe, but they are used.


Yet unlike every other ship in the game, you can't find another use for it once you "Grow out of it"
Even if it's just to make a T2 ship.


Bursts apparently make good cyno ships.


Most people around our way uses probes or magnates, i personally prefer herons just for the wtf factor

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Star Lace
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-04-21 11:49:29 UTC
Defender missiles are used by noobs until they discover that they don't help much. An outstanding detail to enrich the experience of the new ...soon to be dead again ....player. If Defender missiles are in the game I would prefer that they be effective. But then again when has CCP asked me for what I prefer. If I designed the defender missile system. It would work like this. Once a def missile mod is activated it would stay active whether it had fired a def missile or not. It would fire a defender if any enemy missile was incoming, and fire a second missile after the last one it fired detonated. This would be the missile equivalent of tracking disruption. This way for every def missile battery that I have I can counter one of your missile batteries. Now that I think of it ...an anti missile turret mod would be really cool.
Matrim Fidard
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2012-04-22 17:26:28 UTC
Bursts do have a use to move multiship mining ops to other systems and can ferry modules fast. other than that no use