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Abrasive Industries Golden Shield 5
Nissan Truck Abrasive Industries Golden Shield Likes received: 5	#1 - 2012-04-18 18:49:00 UTC Hey Guys, Just wondering if you guys know any pvp neauting domi fits. Also I was wondering why everyone prefers cap boosters to cap rechargers. thanks,

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Alara IonStorm Likes received: 5,477	#2 - 2012-04-18 18:53:12 UTC Nissan Truck wrote: Also I was wondering why everyone prefers cap boosters to cap rechargers. Because they take up one or two slots while giving more cap then 5-6 Cap Rechargers. As long as you have Cargo Room you have Cap.


Nissan Truck Abrasive Industries Golden Shield Likes received: 5	#3 - 2012-04-18 18:54:52 UTC I see, So how long would a Dominix last with its cargohold full of 800 cap boosters on average during pvp?

FallenDream09

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#4 - 2012-04-18 19:08:22 UTC

Nissan Truck wrote:

I see, So how long would a Dominix last with its cargohold full of 800 cap boosters on average during pvp?

No telling how long you may last as every engagement is different. In prolonged fights, there's a good chance you will either be called primary because you're (or at least should be) neuting out priority targets or you'll end up capping yourself out, whichever comes first. Neut Domi's with some good Guardians make cap life a lot easier, though.


Nissan Truck Abrasive Industries Golden Shield Likes received: 5	#5 - 2012-04-18 19:20:14 UTC So If i was planning on being in a prolonged engagement without me warp scramming, It would be viable to go with cap rechargers isntead? So I dont have to worry about running out of cap?

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#6 - 2012-04-18 19:26:21 UTC | Edited by: FallenDream09

Nissan Truck wrote:

So If i was planning on being in a prolonged engagement without me warp scramming, It would be viable to go with cap rechargers isntead? So I dont have to worry about running out of cap?

No, it wouldn't be viable. A big reason to using cap boosters is that you can "coast" through enemy nuetralizers and burn cap charges to sustain your own cap more or less when you need it. If you use cap rechargers, you have no control over when you want to receive a large boost of cap for yourself. Of course there are times with cap boosters where some may try to time their neuts to immediately neut you out right after you've cap boosted.

Roime

Mea Culpa.

Shadow Cartel

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#7 - 2012-04-18 20:13:22 UTC

There are probably many variations, this one needs a PG implant, might fit without if you swap some T2 to meta4:

[Dominix, Neut]

Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
ECCM - Magnetometric II
Warp Scrambler II

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I

Bouncer II x5
Ogre II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Ogre II x1

158K EHP
slow
Will suck a grown man dry p fast, and keeps dry with the medium neuts+ medium cap booster.


Nissan Truck Abrasive Industries Golden Shield Likes received: 5	#8 - 2012-04-18 20:20:08 UTC I see, very nice fit. Thanks! I have a question though, How long do you think a domi fit like that would last? because prolonged engagements are big for me. I want to be self sufficient

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Perihelion Olenard Likes received: 210	#9 - 2012-04-18 20:33:18 UTC Nissan Truck wrote: I see, So how long would a Dominix last with its cargohold full of 800 cap boosters on average during pvp? You will last longer using the navy cap booster 800s, although they are more expensive.

IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69

Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber

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#10 - 2012-04-18 20:37:08 UTC

Why would you want to fly a dominix over an abaddon?

Abaddon tanks much harder
Is a less obvious primary
Can field 8 heavy neuts, mediums range is too restrictive
Extra eHP means egress rigs can be used over trimarks
Makes better use of talis.

Only thing the dominix has going for it is the ability to field 5 sentry drones anything else wont be dealing any meaningful dps. In fact I'd say the dominix is probably one of the worst of all 12 BS for neuting, only the scorp, raven and maelstrom are worse.

Roime

Mea Culpa.

Shadow Cartel

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#11 - 2012-04-18 20:43:23 UTC

There's too many variables really to give a definitive answer. Your skills (both char skills and player skill managing the modules), opponents with various capacitor sizes, you won't be running the neuts all the time, you might be jammed or burning into range, maybe the opponent isn't cap-dependable or might neut you etc.

Only thing is sure that you will run out of the cap boosters charges.

Roime

Mea Culpa.

Shadow Cartel

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#12 - 2012-04-18 20:45:26 UTC

IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:

Because the Dominix has bonused drones and a big drone bay

Baneken

Arctic Light Inc.

Arctic Light

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#13 - 2012-04-18 20:46:42 UTC

[Dominix, neut dominix]
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
100MN MicroWarpdrive II

Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Ogre II x5
Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot II x5
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

This one is 34% cap stable without MWD and 4 neuts in use, so you an cyckle neuts and MWD as needed to replenish the capacitor.
Dominix also has the option fielding 5xheavy ECM bots thus rendering your opponent completely helpless.

This fit is by no means the best it's just something I cooked up with cap stability in mind.

Nissan Truck

Abrasive Industries

Golden Shield

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#14 - 2012-04-18 20:47:36 UTC

IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:

Because I love gallente ships and I love using drones and domi has the best bonuses to that. Also I would assume there would be a lot of hassle involved with putting neauts on a abbadon seeing as how its so cap reliant.

Whitehound

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#15 - 2012-04-18 21:25:20 UTC

You can throw in a cap battery, too, because the Dominix as a Tier1 battleship does not have a big capacitor to start with and an MWD will shorten it further. Having a high cap recharge is nice, but a cap buffer will let you use all your modules for a little longer before you need to turn them off again. Ultimately do you want to use cap boosters for this very reason.

Only when you do not plan to hit hard, fast and with all you got, but you think you can achieve a stand off without anyone calling for support or getting neutralized yourself can you go for a high cap recharge. If you get neutralized and your cap recharge drops below peak will it take forever to get up and you will have lost the cap fight, likely because the other guy used cap boosters.

Cap booster can then be overloaded, which you cannot do with any of the other cap modules. So it is not much of a choice.

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Derath Ellecon

University of Caille

Gallente Federation

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#16 - 2012-04-18 22:27:15 UTC

IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:

Maybe if you are talking pure neuting ability. But by that measure why would you use anything but a Bhaal at that point?

So let's see.

A domi can't neut as well as an abaddon. But in addition to neuting it can get 475DPS out of a flight of Ogre II's. Vs an abaddon's 190DPS with 3 ogre II's. Or you can fill the HUGE drone bay with flight after flight of light and medium drones for anti support.

Bottom line, a Domi can do a pretty good job at neuting AND still put out a decent bit of damage.

And maybe the most important aspect. Cost. I can completely fit 2 dominix's for less than the cost of an abaddon hull.

I would actually say in some situations the Domi is far better as a result. Solo or small gang a Domi can not only neut but deal enough damaage to kill its prey. An abaddon may be able to neut better, but doesn't then have the killing power to finish anything off.

The Unspoken Ones Hole Control 107
Knus'lar The Unspoken Ones Hole Control Likes received: 107	#17 - 2012-04-19 01:20:23 UTC 1 Nissan Truck wrote: So I dont have to worry about running out of cap? I thought it was universally excepted that pvp fights were non cap stable? You only need to last about a minute. In 'sustained' fights, which usually means being in bigger ships, cap boosters are the much better option

MeBiatch

GRR GOONS

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#18 - 2012-04-19 01:32:05 UTC | Edited by: MeBiatch

i know its not used that much anymore since the nos nerf... but i find that one nos be it medium or heavy increases my chances of survival alot when there is a small gang that i am fighting... pretty much when i am low on cap boosters and have more then two targets i mos the 3rd target to make it so i dont have to use the 800's as fast which can make or break your day in a domi...

i also like the domi cuss of drone skill and its 5 mid slots means that if you have dedicated tackle you can put on two eccm which means you are targeting pretty much forever...

in a solo fight i would start off with ecm drones and nuet the guy down to nothing (if the ship uses energy to fire) then once he is capped recall ecm drones and use just one med nuet on him and kill him with the orgre II...

but thats just low sec solo pvp which is rare usually you come acrross some dude with his falcon so i highly recommend getting a falcon alt... or better yet so small gang roams with dedicated ship types...

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Bouh Revetoile In Wreck we thrust Likes received: 554	#19 - 2012-04-19 12:21:03 UTC You can also use a full flight of neuting drones, giving you one more capless heavy neut. I don't know why no one use these drones by the way.