EVE Fiction

That's the most plausible explanation I've heard yet. Thanks, that helps reconcile the ship's crew thing. I always considered it a hole in the rationality of the New Eden world.

I keep wanting to write a story like that. It is because I hate hope and light and life and puppies.

Make sure it follows a very standard, traditional heroes journey; Even have the hero succeed! Hoorah!

And then he gets hit by a falling rock or something, and because he wasn't there to cement his victory, all he accomplished was wiped out.

Fade to black.

Crew member 1: OK, we’re set. When we reach Otelen, we immediately disable the warp drive and eject the captain's pod. Our capsuleer will be waiting in his pod at the gate. We have less than two minutes to get his pod onboard, locked in, and the ship underway again. It’s now or never, we’ll never have this chance again.

Crew member 2: Understood. We’ll probably die, yes. But if we can get the Zealot to the Republic… freedom, fame, and wealth for each of us for life. And for our families for 10 generations!

Captain [on intercom]: Attention, slave crew. Today is the fourth anniversary of my graduation from the academy. In commemoration, we’ll be leaving the Zealot in the hangar and making the trip in "Tattooed Vixen," my old Impairor rookie ship. Enjoy!

Crew members: ......

Respectfully, I am adverse to that ideal.

Nothing is going to get destroyed, framework included, by bending the lore to better suit a story written by a fan for the purposes of entertaining other fans.

The game will continue regardless of what you write.

There are lines, of course, which is why bending is better than breaking - but you need to realise that keeping such strict constraints on story can impact a writer, and when a writer allows themselves freedom of expression to tell a story, you get a better story.

Like Clear Skies.

Not one mention of a pod, or what a pod is, or the technicalities of piloting a vessel using the mind is explored during this trilogy. In addition to that, the entire crew compliment of the ship consisted of 3 people.

Several years later, here we are and there has been no breakage of framework, yet, Ian Chisholm won an award.

Stories are about characters, nothing more. When you ground characters too much, you break the story as there is nothing left for a character to do but follow an extremely limiting path which conforms.

Love to debate this on eve-voice with you, if you can stomach my insidious voice.

AK

Clear Skies is hilarious, and great entertainment.

But it's a terrible, terrible story. I'd argue that Clear Skies has done more harm to Eve's lore than anything else has.

Have you read this one?

All These Lives are Fit to Ruin

One of the biggest holes in the lore is the Origin. Specifically; the fact that the same day the wormhole to the milkyway collapsed, there were absolutely no remaining space ships flying about in New Eden.

If always found that completely implausible, that not even your Average Joe hauling stuff between solar systems in New Eden survived, that the ENTIRE space traffic magically dissappeared, or, was suspiciously on the other side of the wormhole - even though 'thousands followed in their footsteps' to go to New Eden.

When you really analyse it, you come to the obviousness of what the lore really is.

As for teh Jovians...we all got theories on those guys, but we all know they were designed to function as Avatars for devs - which was changed in 2006/7 and now are nothing more than carrots on the end of a stick, whilst CCP are riding us.

In some instances I swear they are used for solving contradictory plotholes. 'It was the Jovians!' '...they went to Jovian Space, and we never saw them again...' '...he couldn't find his keys, but DNA analysis of his apartment suggested that Jovians had visited him during the night...and also took his record collection of Whale songs, possibly for harmonic studies...' CCP themselves class them as a 'mysterious race' and by that rational, they can use them for anything they want - except actual game content, sadly.

AK

There were plenty of spaceships left functioning after the original Eve gate collapse, but the entirety of the fledgling settlements were completely cut off from supplies back in our part of the galaxy.

So you had a few hundred extremely fledgling colonies that were not self-sufficient, with no more supplies, limited spare parts to fix spaceships, no manufacturing facilities, barely-functioning terraforming, etc.

Think if you were on an expedition to the south pole, but were getting regular drop offs of supplies, and then the supplies were suddenly cut. You still have all your fancy equipment but things will eventually break down without an advanced manufacturing base to resupply.

If your ipod breaks now, you go buy another one. If the Apple factory is suddenly a million lightyears away, you've only got one ipod, and then fast forward a few thousand years. It won't be working.

I would like to point out a major oversight on my part, and it does change a lot of what i was arguing earlier.

When I was discussing the number of people killed by your typical, mission running, capsuleer, I forgot to consider a very important probability....

Ships have escape pods!

So the next time I'm popping a Battleship, I'm most likely not killing thousands of its crew. Most of the crew had most lekely abandoned ship once the hull began to go below 80%.