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Tengu or what else?
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sidicious reign
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-18 12:14:54 UTC  |  Edited by: sidicious reign
So I currently run a tengu fit for my angel ratter. It seems to suffer from the problem of too much tank not enough gank, sometimes taking forever to pop battleships. Any advice?

Current fit:

6x heavys ii

2x gistii a-type shield booster
Domination shield boost amp
Domination explosive deflection field
10mn afterburner ii
Em ward amplifier ii

4x Ballistic control system ii


3x medium capacitor control circuit

Amplification node
Augmented capacitor reservoir
Accelerated ejection bay
Fuel catalyst
Dissolution sequencer

Permatanks cap stable and soaks up slot of damage

****EDIT**** Alternatively I'd look for a better ship for the job, was thinking maybe rattlesnake, golem(extreme) or something like it. I'm caldari gallante trained
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#2 - 2012-04-18 12:52:34 UTC
Officer BCUs all the way, my man!
sidicious reign
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-04-18 13:02:57 UTC
I'd probably only go up to Cn ones but I'm not sure that's really the best fit in this situation.
sidicious reign
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-04-18 13:09:18 UTC
Updated
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-04-18 13:25:28 UTC
So you say too much tank not enough gank. And you say it is cap stable with everything running. So why keep it cap stable if it is already overtanked.

Upgrade to at least CN BCU's
Break a CCC rig or two and add some gank rigs.
Comy 1
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-04-18 13:27:54 UTC
Rigor rigs, navy bcus, hell even a target painter is nice.

Also look at hardwirings
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#7 - 2012-04-18 14:08:16 UTC
Ratting? Cheaper, more everything, still overtanked for its purpose

[Tengu, All Purpose PvE]

Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Explosion Dampening Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I

752 dps with fury kinetic, can hit cruisers for 90% damage with tp + fury, frigates can be dealt with in 2 volleys with faction missiles + tp (though with 3.2 second cycles on the launchers, volleys hardly matter).
Just Alter
Futures Abstractions
#8 - 2012-04-18 14:34:24 UTC
[Tengu, cheap]

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Trauma Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Trauma Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Trauma Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Trauma Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Trauma Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Trauma Rage Assault Missile

Stasis Webifier II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Small Shield Booster II
Small Shield Booster II
Cap Recharger II

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II

max 838dps at 42km without implants

cap stable with everything running: 255 defense vs serp
can drop the web and change hardeners for more def/other rats.

1b cost
Orlacc
#9 - 2012-04-18 15:40:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
Dump the CCCs. Nothing says " I rushed to get into this boat." like CCCs. Cap stable is not necessary.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-04-18 15:55:46 UTC
to sum it up:
- use rigor rigs
- use at least three faction BCUs
- use implants (this is a big one)
- add on a TP if you don't mind the hassle

do not use HAMs unless you want to ignore frigates

I should buy an Ishtar.
sidicious reign
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-04-19 12:59:53 UTC
Which hardwirings would I be focusing on?
Just Alter
Futures Abstractions
#12 - 2012-04-19 14:23:44 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
to sum it up:
- use rigor rigs
- use at least three faction BCUs
- use implants (this is a big one)
- add on a TP if you don't mind the hassle

do not use HAMs unless you want to ignore frigates



Hams have no problems with frigates, 2 volley at most.


If you dont care about the range hams are better than HM in every aspect, it's not like torpedos vs cruisers.

The implants are the standard ones: rof, hams or hm specific.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-19 14:25:53 UTC
sidicious reign wrote:
Which hardwirings would I be focusing on?


Your bigger tank is sign/speed so you can prob work around this+missile dmg/explosion rad/speed. Atm your fit looks like an awesome loot piñata but it's your choice.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-04-19 14:27:56 UTC
Just Alter wrote:
[Tengu, cheap]

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Trauma Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Trauma Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Trauma Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Trauma Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Trauma Rage Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Trauma Rage Assault Missile

Stasis Webifier II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Small Shield Booster II
Small Shield Booster II
Cap Recharger II

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II

max 838dps at 42km without implants

cap stable with everything running: 255 defense vs serp
can drop the web and change hardeners for more def/other rats.

1b cost


This is effective enough to PVE and ass kick a lot of trolls out of your path. Excellent choice