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T3 BC fleets are so fail in mid-large scale PvP
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-04-18 05:22:10 UTC
Torothin wrote:

I am not talking about them being primaried. I am talking about hwo we are seeing full scale t3 BC doctrine gangs get face raped time and time again. This has nothing to do with "because they're always primary." The fleets consist of nothing but t3 bc's logis and dics.

Pull up the info on bc side by side. I did that for hurrican, cyclone and tornado. Do you know what I discovered?

Tornado has about half of hull, shield and armor hp when compared to hurricane and cyclone. Sometimes it is even less than half. Here, see for yourself:
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n558/Caleidascope/t3bc.jpg

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#22 - 2012-04-18 05:33:16 UTC
Patient 2428190 wrote:
You have 3 tier 3 BC kills on your alliance's killboard.

Obviously you have a vast pool of experience to pull from.


But they have been faceraped by Tornado fleets. Isn't that almost the same as "I am talking about hwo we are seeing full scale t3 BC doctrine gangs get face raped time and time again."

I mean it's easy to get confused, right? TEST and all that...

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Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#23 - 2012-04-18 05:54:32 UTC
Who said there was mid size pvp fleets?
It's either a blob or gang.

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Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#24 - 2012-04-18 05:58:30 UTC
OP's alliance is losing Tier 3 ships because they have a reputation of being meat shields Roll

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Crellion
Nano Rhinos
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#25 - 2012-04-18 06:16:41 UTC
Katalci wrote:
Close-range tier 3 BC gangs are for people who don't know what a battleship is.


Since you said "gangs"... either that or people mad enough to pay 70 mill (instead of 1.2 bill) for 1400 gun dps from one ship! Oh wait...
Smabs
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-04-18 07:58:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Smabs
T3 BC's don't work well as a standard ship in huge fleets like the cfc runs, so you're right there.

But otherwise they have great mobility and damage projection and work great in smaller fleets (<50), or in small gangs of ten or less. The new battlecruisers have actually been a huge benefit to smaller corps and alliances, mainly because it's now much easier to kill stuff quickly and escape or burn off before a blob arrives.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#27 - 2012-04-18 08:36:37 UTC
ITT: people trying to fly something with the speed and EHP of a cruiser like a battleship, then being surprised when it doesn't do as good a job as a battleship at being a battleship.

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Jace81
Sacred Sacrifice
#28 - 2012-04-18 09:21:52 UTC
Denuo Secus wrote:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12972304

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Smabs
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-04-18 10:23:23 UTC
It was a cool bombing run but does that say much about the t3 battlecruisers or the people in them?
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-04-18 11:59:51 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
OP's alliance is losing Tier 3 ships because they have a reputation of being meat shields Roll


This is good for the game, the more die the more you have to build, less bots yadayada better economy yadayada (fake)

If you really want to have some fun try an insta cane Lol
Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#31 - 2012-04-18 15:06:50 UTC
I remember when the drake was new and everyone said it was useless

There should be a rather awesome pic here
Entrepreuna
Crimson Dawn Enterprises
#32 - 2012-04-18 15:13:01 UTC
TEST does not have a T3 BC doctrine. All trolls aside the t3 BC is lacking in LR fleets and die more times than not. Maybe it is the FC's that we have gone up against that cause them to die. Who knows. Their lack in mobility and buffer always gets them in trouble more times than not.
Indeterminacy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-04-18 17:22:10 UTC
I remember a CFC fleet getting a warpin at 0 on a LR Tier3 fleet I was in. Bubbles and overheated MWDs ensued. I further recall being pointed by a Arazu while warping safes subsequently. Burned 40+ KM and got away from said Arazu + 8-10 pubbies who answered his call.

Tell me again about Tier 3 lack of mobility and frequently exploding?
Torothin
Crimson Dawn Enterprises
#34 - 2012-04-18 19:28:29 UTC
Indeterminacy wrote:
I remember a CFC fleet getting a warpin at 0 on a LR Tier3 fleet I was in. Bubbles and overheated MWDs ensued. I further recall being pointed by a Arazu while warping safes subsequently. Burned 40+ KM and got away from said Arazu + 8-10 pubbies who answered his call.

Tell me again about Tier 3 lack of mobility and frequently exploding?



So you are justifying your case based on a single engagement which is stupid and implying that you flew in a IM fleet. We all know IM does not do any fleets so I find this very hard to believe....
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2012-04-18 22:23:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Mfume Apocal
Indeterminacy wrote:
I remember a CFC fleet getting a warpin at 0 on a LR Tier3 fleet I was in. Bubbles and overheated MWDs ensued. I further recall being pointed by a Arazu while warping safes subsequently. Burned 40+ KM and got away from said Arazu + 8-10 pubbies who answered his call.

Tell me again about Tier 3 lack of mobility and frequently exploding?


I recall your Tier 3 gang coming to my home system, killing 2 mission pulling alts in noobships and losing 3 or 4 dudes trying to escape. I actually managed to catch more than that, but my probebomber has pretty horrible cap and got out run by the Tornadoes.
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